Friendly Reminder From a Resident Nut

[ColdInsomnia]

Terrorism Act 2000

This act attacked;

- Presumption of innocence
- Freedom of association
- Freedom of expression
- Right to peaceful protest



Football (Disorder) act 2000

This act attacked;

- Presumption of innocence
- Freedom of movement


Health and Social Care Act 2001

This act attacked;

- Confidentiality of medical records


Anti-Terrorism, Crime and Security Act 2001

- Rights to privacy
- Confidentiality of medical and financial records
- Presumption of innocence
- Suspect's rights in custody
- Right to silence


Social Security Fraud Act 2001

- Rights to privacy
- Confidentiality of financial and other records


Proceeds of Crime Act 2002

- Presumption of innocence
- Security of property


Extradition Act 2003

- Right to a jury trial
- Right to a fair trial
- Freedom from arbitrary arrest


Criminal Justice Act 2003

- Right to jury trial
- Double jeopardy rule


The "Snoopers Charter"

- Rights to privacy of communication


Civil Contingencies Act 2004

- Potentially almost all rights; the government can aquire absolute power. This is an enabling act


Prevention of Terrorism Act 2005

- Presumption of innocence
- The right to know the evidence / charges against you
- The right to a fair trial (or indeed, any trial at all)
- Potentially, almost any right (besides torture and death)


Serious Organised Crime and Police Act 2005

- Suspect's rights
- The right to peaceful protest


Data Retention Regulations 2007

- Rights to privacy of communication (A record will be kept of everyone's phone calls, emails, mobile phone calls (including location), and internet usage)


Coming soon to a police state near you!

- ID cards
- Compulsory DNA database
- Unmanned police spy drones
- RFID chips



Past is prologue, folks.
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[nick606]

Im sure mister james will be in a sec spouting the nothing to hide nothing to fear crap. And how its all for our benefit and your crazy.

Personally i cant stand it. You wouldn't be able to take a dump soon without the government knowing

[Itchy]

The biggest part of this is that these laws all RIGHTS to be withdrawn at any time.

If they were really rights , they they would be inalienable and could NEVER be withdrawn.

What this essentially means is everything that you consider to be a right , is infact actually a priviledge , in that priviledges can and are withdrawn.


Which pretty much sums up SOND's signature in that you don't actually have ANY rights at all.

Sickpup will probably be along shortly and quote article 44, but article 44 is useless when the all the guns are held by one party.
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[igiyf]

https://www.tpuc.org/node/590

[Skudd]

[Mister James]

[Itchy]

[igiyf]

[Mister James]

Oh look! Another one who puts words in people's mouths!
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[JonB]

FFS.

ColdInsomnia, you are a victim of the very indoctrination you accuse us all of. Your scaremongering is nothing short of political spin. All you are doing is shoving largely pointless legislation down our throats, giving your interpretation of aforementioned acts, shrugged your shoulders and acted as if we are to blame for this atrosity.

There are a lot of young and impressionable people on this site, a lot of your facts are largely unfounded taking your information from people with as much, if not bias than the BBC. Let people make up their own minds. When and IF the government starts to abandon common democracy and submit authoritarian rule, which I may add is taking a rather long time. Pretty sure the Nazi's took advantage of the enabling act the next day, then I think you'll find it will start to give a shit.

If we went through every piece of information with your cynical viewpoint then we are royally fucked.

Look through the list of acts passed since 1980: - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Acts_of_Parliament_of_the_United_Kingdom_Parliament,_1980-1999

I picked one at random; The Public Order Act of 1986.

Lo and behold!

[bazza]

[Skudd]

Coldinsomnia, what are you doing about it? Unlike Mad_muppet who thinks the question boring, perhaps he should read some of his own posts, ( probably the only one who does) I am interested as to what you are doing about it that will make a difference within, lets say, the next 100 days?
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[Itchy]

To enjoy my life as much as possible before the collaspe, which frankly is the only thing you CAN do.
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[igiyf]

[stinkwheel]

[Skudd]

[Skudd]

[igiyf]

I am sorry sir,,you have cancer

No!

Yes sir..the good news is that its only in a small area of your body and if you accept this and have the treatment theres a huge chance you will be fine.

You a conspiracy theorist doctor!!!!!!!!!!!

No..no not at all sir in fact this is very common i can show you cases through out all of recorded history of like things,these illnesses tend to follow a similar pattern..

Your fear mongering! this is your agenda

Sir i have nothing to gain i just want a better world for all

Well its not as if its effected me right,its takes ages,yes doc your "cancer" you seem to want to scare me with, i"l tel you what when i am yellow and on my death bed then i"l care!

It will be to late for you then sir

Pfff yea put your tinfoil hat on

The end.

[bazza]

https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/youtube.png
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[Skudd]

[igiyf]

[igiyf]

Come on fuckers whats your view? your fast enough to jump on him so is it all a lie? is it all true and you don't mind accepting?

Does his reminder piss you off as you fear whats coming??

[SoND]

[Itchy]

The big problem is if you replace the leadership via bad means you get worse leaders, this government is complicit in torture , if we get rid of them by bad means we create even worse monsters.

Chen Kai shek ended the Warlord era of China, and replaced it with his own brand of totalitarianism.

Mao deposed Chen Kai shek and imposed his absolute reign of terror.

Saloth Sar, over threw the the leftist party in Cambodia and he also caused a massive reign of terror.

The list goes on and on....

The only real shining example is Taiwan in that Taiwan up until 1987 was an absolutist totalitarian state people would go missing , any thing that contradicted the party line would be silenced and put to death.

Lee Teng-hui decided to democratise the nation, and the country is free and fair corruption is not tolerated , Chen shui bien was caught cheating in the elections and pocketing bribes and is rotting in prison currently.



This means there are two ways out of this , ie for a leader to appear like Lee Teng-hui (unlikely) or something many many people will not like total societal collaspe.

In that in total societal collaspe we get to rebuild from scratch the state apparatus will no longer exist to implement such laws.Being that in effect the government is just a monopoly on inflicting violence upon people it isn't all that different from extortion.

A VERY large number of people will die though as when the collapse occurs there will be wide spread rioting famine disease and murder for food. But once the dust settles there will be two kinds of society , one run by warlords where a despot has the major monopoly on application of violence (not a million miles away from where we are now) or we have a minimalist barter society with affordances whereby you don't murder the baker because without the baker you starve, you can't murder the water pump guy or the guy who grows the wheat either. And thus everybody becomes useful enough not to be murderable.

However as Morpheus said in the Matrix people will defend the current system because they are used to it , they open their fridges and there is food inside there is electricity running water. A collasped society would be regular occurances of violence , lack of food and all sorts of nasty things.

Thus either hope for somebody like Lee Teng-hui , or destroy the current system and rebuild from the ground up.
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Spain 2008France 2007Big one 2009 We all die. The goal isn't to live forever, the goal is to create something that will. In the end, your life will flash before your eyes. Make sure it is worth watching.

[ColdInsomnia]