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GRUFF
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PostPosted: 16:50 - 11 Mar 2009    Post subject: oil change problem Reply with quote

Hi, i picked up some light gear oil today from my local bike shop. The guy in the shop said it was fine for my Yamaha DT125X.

I've changed the oil but now when i start the bike & put it in gear the bike creeps forward while you hold the clutch in??? It creeps forward like that for a bit & then just stalls. It was fine before i changed it.

What have i done? Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: 17:42 - 11 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

The DT is 2 stroke right? , what oil did you use and what did the manual say? , in that some bikes do not tolerate synth oil very well others do like my XT apparently.

And can cause clutch slippage, the fix is just to flush it through 1-2 times with the proper oil.
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PostPosted: 18:21 - 11 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah it's a 2 stroke. It's Silkolene light gear oil. On the back it says "gear oil rating 75W-80W" & "crank case rating 10W-40".

The guy in the shop said it was ok for a DT, but now i'm guessing not.
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PostPosted: 18:30 - 11 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Before you do anything else have you checked the clutch cable for any extra adjustment ie adjust it so the bite point is father from the handle bar. Do this so you eliminate this possibility first , adjust from the top or the bottom of the cable.

If its not that I'd probably phone up a Yam dealer and ask them what THEY would use in the DT125 and say I'll be down this afternoon , if it is different to that which you used give the bike shop guy an ear full.

The gear box oil tank is usually quite small anyway so flushing it won't take a massive amount of oil.
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PostPosted: 17:33 - 16 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right, i got some oil the local dealership suggested. Undone the sump nut to drain the oil out with no problems. Starting tightning it back up & SNAP! Bolt has snapped inside the engine Crying or Very sad

It didn't feel like it was threading or tight when i was doing it. FFS! Brilliant couple of days i've had lately.

Any suggestions on what i should do know? Do you think it's a shop job or should i take a look myself??
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PostPosted: 17:39 - 16 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

GRUFF wrote:
Right, i got some oil the local dealership suggested. Undone the sump nut to drain the oil out with no problems. Starting tightning it back up & SNAP! Bolt has snapped inside the engine Crying or Very sad

It didn't feel like it was threading or tight when i was doing it. FFS! Brilliant couple of days i've had lately.

Any suggestions on what i should do know? Do you think it's a shop job or should i take a look myself??


Its snapped inside the engine sump drain thing? , take a picture how much meat is there left on the remainant of the bolt?.

If there is substantial meat on it you can do 3 things:

>Spot weld something to that bit of bolt (high chance of sucess)

>Using a hack saw cut a l in the bolt and use a huge screw driver and a adjustable spanner to undo it and replace it with a new one.

> Have a go with mole grips (I've not often been sucessful with this).



If there is zero meat and it is flush with the sump casing you can:

Replace the sump (fairly easy unless the exhaust is in the way and it almost always is) , but may cause compression issues like Gman.

Live with it and drain the oil by siphoning out of the hole where you put oil in (this isn;t that good).

Use a punch to put a notch in it and very VERY slowly use a reverse drill bit , which most of the time if you do it slow enough SHOULD grip the metal and wind it out.


Any way you get it out you have to check the threads if they are badly damaged its new sump or helicoil time.
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PostPosted: 18:43 - 16 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't dt's not have a sump? I thought that it was just part of the crank case.
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PostPosted: 19:12 - 16 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

baldy wrote:
Don't dt's not have a sump? I thought that it was just part of the crank case.


Oh yeah forgot that it was a 2 stroke , same thing applies though in that you can change the crank case or remove the snapped bolt
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PostPosted: 21:21 - 16 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the replies guys.

Do you think i might be able to get at the bolt if i take the crank case off then?

I didn't think of that at the time Embarassed
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PostPosted: 22:12 - 16 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

ignore it until your next oil change.
if its in, its in.
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