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Chriss
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PostPosted: 20:19 - 18 Mar 2009    Post subject: 90s 2 Stroke 250cc+ Sports Bikes Reply with quote

Hi! For a while I've quite fancied a two stroke bike, but I don't really know much about these!

Can anyone advise me on which bikes are defiantly worth a look, and which ones to avoid. Anything special on two strokes to look out for?

Any other good resources?

Thanks in advance!
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PostPosted: 20:25 - 18 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's a buying guide to RGV250s in this month's Classic Motorcycle Mechanics.

The type of bike you're looking at will need to have a top-end rebuild fairly regularly so make sure you know when it was last done or budget accordingly.
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PostPosted: 20:34 - 18 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

RXS100_Chris wrote:
There's a buying guide to RGV250s in this month's Classic Motorcycle Mechanics.

The type of bike you're looking at will need to have a top-end rebuild fairly regularly so make sure you know when it was last done or budget accordingly.


Not necessarily. I'd avoid the RGV for a first 250 as they are quite high maintenance.

Now the TZR250 2MA/1KT (I'm not biased Wink ) is pretty good in terms of reliability and don't need engine rebuilds as much as the more highly tuned 2 strokes (45hp compared to an RGV's 60hp).

You can pick them up pretty cheaply off eBay, usually sub £1000 unless it's a minter. Mint ones don't come up very often, cosmetically, a lot of them seem to be pretty shabby.

Things to look out for on 2MA/1KTs is lockwire. They are used in the Yamaha Past Masters Racing Club. If you see loads of holes drilled through bolt heads, walk away.

Check for engine rebuilds on 2MA/1KTs over 15,000-20,000 miles. If it hasn't had one, as Chris said, factor one into the price.
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PostPosted: 20:53 - 18 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://pride-u-bike.com/catalog/honda/Honda-NSR250R-(MC28)-1994.jpg

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PostPosted: 21:12 - 18 Mar 2009    Post subject: Re: 90s 2 Stroke 250cc+ Sports Bikes Reply with quote

I had two RS250s and really liked them for road riding.
The pre 98 models have a slightly soft front end, but still capable enough on the road.

RGV, like the RS I thought, is supposed to have top ends done every 10,000 miles, which isn't too bad, especially presuming it's a second bike.
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PostPosted: 21:16 - 18 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

McJamweasel wrote:

The end.


Laughing A slow bloated MC21. Whistle
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PostPosted: 21:21 - 18 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

McJamweasel wrote:
https://pride-u-bike.com/catalog/honda/Honda-NSR250R-(MC28)-1994.jpg

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PostPosted: 21:27 - 18 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

One day i will own one of these..
https://www.yokohama-city.com/mc/impre/fo_bike/tzr250spr.jpg

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PostPosted: 21:28 - 18 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

had an RGV250p for 3 years , spanked the arse off it everyware including the IOM
never had one thing go wrong with it and that was useing it all year round work ect
did get it new though , more smiles per miles than big bikes Very Happy
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PostPosted: 21:36 - 18 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll present my slightly biased view.

MC21 NSR250 made 1990 -93 the newer MC28 as BLUEX5 mentions i a pain to derestrict. to get 60bhp out of an MC21 just takes a pair of snips a soldering iron and 10 minutes of your time.

NSR's are getting expensive now as everyone is starting to keep hold of them.

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PostPosted: 21:37 - 18 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

BLUEX5 wrote:
Get the reverse cylinder model (3MA)....if your going to buy an unrealiable bag of shit it should at least sound beautiful when it does run. Thumbs Up


Cheaper too.
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PostPosted: 21:46 - 18 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 21:46 - 18 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

BLUEX5 wrote:

Interesting...I always thought even the 21 was mucho fannying around with race kit ignitions, pipes etc etc. If that's the case then they would knock the RGV into a cocked hat as they have a much better chassis and build.


The 28 was where it got silly. The 21 is restricted by retarding the ignition in the top 3 gears so all you do is cut the 4th, 5th and 6th gear wires from the gps and splice them into 3rd.

The airbox is also restricted but 3 1" holes in the top sorts that.

The standard exhausts are pretty good but have zero tart factor.

The 28 does indeed need a lot of messing. theres a myth that all a 28 needs is a HRC ignition card but it's bollocks.
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PostPosted: 21:50 - 18 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

gsxrmick wrote:
The 28 does indeed need a lot of messing. theres a myth that all a 28 needs is a HRC ignition card but it's bollocks.


It says in the Feb issue of Bike that with the HRC card you get full power, but it cuts the power to the lights and you need a special wiring loom to have full power as well as working lights.
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PostPosted: 22:00 - 18 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

BLUEX5 wrote:
The 28 needs most of the race kit as far as I'm aware, which includes pipes, carb internals, airbox bits and wiring harness. Borderline not worth doing IMHO.


The one they talk about in Bike is the SP version, so don't know if that makes any difference to how much you need to change to get full power.
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PostPosted: 22:03 - 18 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

A HRC card alone will not give a 28 60bhp, as BLUEX5 says they do indeed need loads doing to them.

Even the flywheel on a 28 is restrictive.
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PostPosted: 22:06 - 18 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

gsxrmick wrote:
A HRC card alone will not give a 28 60bhp, as BLUEX5 says they do indeed need loads doing to them.

Even the flywheel on a 28 is restrictive.


This is why I don't usually buy motorcycle magazines, they lie Laughing
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PostPosted: 00:28 - 19 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

The late TZR250R V-twin is IMO the most Beautiful 250cc sportsbike ever made! They are also more reliable than the Reverse twin if left std. Id have one over any RGV, NSR or RS250.
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PostPosted: 00:35 - 19 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

NSR250SP is the sex, the one from the end of Andy Lau's Full Throttle Surprised
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PostPosted: 07:13 - 19 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

ive owned a couple of 250 smokies, a rgv250 when i was 15 and first got my learners licence, it was a mad bike, so hard to keep in the power range, but a brilliant bike none the less, a few years later i bought a rz250 im not sure if you got them in the uk, but it was a great all round bike, dispite being a little on the ugly side,
ive also ridden mates rs250 pritty much the same as the rgv,
and a nsr which i liked least of all, dispite it probably being the best looking.
it really just depends on what you want the bike for
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