Exhaust info.

[TimNorwich]

On my new hornet, I have an ART exhaust, to me it is quite loud (that could be due to the gpz sounding so quiet), not only is it loud but it has no baffles, or BSAU marks or whatnot. So I thought i'd find out the actual law behind exhausts and if i'd get a fine or points. I don't care about a fine, but I do points!

So I thought instead of searching the internet high and low for some answers I would send an E-mail to Norfolk Police and ask my questions on exhausts. The E-mail is as follows:



I am writing to you to ask a question about motorcycle exhausts, and the law around them.

Do they need to be "E" marked and have baffles in them?

If they do need the above, and a motorcycle doesn't comply with those rules what are the possible penalties?


Thankyou for your time.

Tim



****Reply****

Tim,

Re your enquiry above, my understanding is that it does require a British Standard Stamp on it indeed.

This may well be in the form of an E or Kite mark of some description.

The National Police National Legal Database is a excellent site to look up and will give many details of such regulations relating to Construction and Use of Motor Vehicles.
Prescribed requirements are contained in the Motor Cycle Silencer & Exhaust Systems Regulations 1995 SI 1995/2370, and may refer to any British Standard Specifications, regulations under section 41 of the Road Traffic Act 1988 or any EC or international instrument.

You do need baffles as this could fall foul of the reasonable noise permitted on vehicles and render you liable for prosecution.

The Motor Cycle Noise Act 1987 was introduced to prohibit the supply of motor cycle exhaust systems and silencers which do not comply with prescribed requirements and which are likely to cause the emission of excessive noise.



The fine could be a fixed penalty or you could be reported and possibly required to attend Court.



Regards

PC PHILLIPS



So yer, now I have to look on the 'The National Police National Legal Database' and find further information! I'll keep you posted.
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[TimNorwich]

Took a look on that Database website and couldn't find anything, however I found this link


https://www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si1995/Uksi_19952370_en_1.htm

Mentions what must be stamped on the exhaust, however there is no mention of baffles
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[s44678]

God the police must be really short of work if they have time to reply to emails in that amount of depth.

Get out and catch some criminals or harass some minorities or something. That's what we pay you for FFS.

[Wil]

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[barmac007]

As far as I know there is, and this is why people like Akrapovic put a poxy little tack weld on the bolt that locates the baffle. This way to remove it you are damaging the exhaust (by breaking the weld) and not just undoing a bolt.

It may be down to interpretation and implementation of the rules but I can 100% assure you that you can have easy to remove db reducers and baffles and still pass the tests for an E mark. As in actually submit a can for testing and pass. I know because I've been involved in the process while I was Brand Manager at Micron.
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[mickm]

timmyboynorwich,

did you get to the bottom of the legality of your Art exhaust then?

I have also just recently bought an Art pro series 2 race can. There are no markings on the can at all. And also no baffle.

As far as I was aware as long as it doesnt say "not for road use" or equivalent then it is up to the interpretation of the MOT tester or Policeman if you're stopped.

I would like to know where I stand legally before I take the risk and leave it on the bike. Am also not a fan of getting points.

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