Naked bikes - Power please...

[Thom]

Ok so i recently bought a divvy. and im pig sick of it. It slow, dull, vibrates and rattles, so im after something more beefy.

It WILL be restricted, but i would like it to atleast have a sports orientated engine (By which i mean a bandit, Fazer, Hornet etc).

I dont care on it's mileage, but im looking at an absolute maximum of 1700 quid which will have to include restriction.

Insurance would have to come back cheaper than the Divvy600s at £330 TPO.

Im CONSIDERING a bandit 12, but i doubt it will take lightly to restriction. But i can insure a naked one for just £125.

Id rather stray away from the fazer as my mate just bought one and i dont wanna have the same bike

Oh one more thing, the divvy doesnt cope with pillions well at all. I need a bike capable of accelerating with about 20 stone of weight on it

Suggest!
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[Kwaks]

I know a few divvy riders that can get good performance out their machines (albeit non restricted), you sure you don't have an underlying problem?
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[chris-red]

An older speed triple

abit more than 1700,

https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/TRIUMPH-T509-SPEED-TRIPLE-1997-NEW-MOT-TAXED-33-0000_W0QQitemZ300301339270QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Motorcycles?hash=item300301339270&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2|65%3A7|39%3A1|240%3A1318

But in good nick, I would have on of these over a bandit anyday, engine from the Daytona, if your limit is 1700 and you want something vaguely sports bikey the hornet ould be a good bet


Here is a Hornet for £1700

https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HONDA-CB600-HORNET-CB600S-CB-600_W0QQitemZ120391444702QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Motorcycles?hash=item120391444702&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2|65%3A7|39%3A1|240%3A1318


I could handle Pillions on my Speed Four but at the same time 33bhp is not a brilliant way to take pillions, if you are going to restrict it I doubt there will be much performance increase if you are restricting it.
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[Itchy]

Dare to be difference get a honda X11

https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/honda-x11-cb1100-blackbird-tourer-no-reserve_W0QQitemZ320349896382QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Motorcycles?hash=item320349896382&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2|65%3A7|39%3A1|240%3A1318


Bandit 1200 is what 100bhp on a good day, the Honda is 145bhp, enough power for ya?.
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[Charlie]

Get a hornet 250

Keeps up with my mates bandit fine and we both seem to have the same top speed. One went cheaply on ebay the other day. I think it is insurance group 8, and it is geared for just over 33bhp so it still revs and performs as it should.
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[craigs23]

33bhp is 33bhp right?

Would the engine make that much difference (in terms of mid sized inline 4s)? Maybe look for something a little more lightweight to make the power deficit less noticeable?

I still don't fully understand the power craze for need of 'fun' in a bike. All of mine are 'fun' in their own way, from the 10bhp 125 to the 110bhp 600. I guess it's what you want out of a bike, or how you use it that counts.

[Thom]

Here's the thing, i like the sheer acceleration of sports bikes, and ive ridden a good few, including owned 3 400cc sports bikes which i adored.

But they dont offer what im after.

The divvy doesnt have the acceleration im after, its overtakes are seriously slow and dangerous if planned even slightly wrong.

I dont care about top speed at all.

The divvy is VERY soft, i need a bit more aggression in a bike.

It will nto carry a pillion restricted, i had hell on getting upto speed and maintaining anything about 65 wasnt an option with my 9 stone and my mates 12.

The fazer provided all of the above even restricted.

Its not just brute force im after but id like it.

I REALLY like the x11 though!
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Previous Bikes: 1990 Honda NSR125 'Rothmans' (The smoking one), 1990 Suzuki GS500e 'Caf? fighter' (The loud one), 1987 Kawasaki GPX400r (The quick one), 1997 XJ600s Diversion (The reliable one), 2000 Kawasaki ER-5 (The spontaneously combustive one)

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[shellywoozle]

Get an SV650s or SV650n.

https://img13.imageshack.us/img13/2536/imgp0358a.jpg
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[Thom]

I love the pointys! Very much infact.

Maybe i should go back to a 400, it isnt like i carry pillions often, i kinda just want a fun bike....

Decisions....
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Previous Bikes: 1990 Honda NSR125 'Rothmans' (The smoking one), 1990 Suzuki GS500e 'Caf? fighter' (The loud one), 1987 Kawasaki GPX400r (The quick one), 1997 XJ600s Diversion (The reliable one), 2000 Kawasaki ER-5 (The spontaneously combustive one)

[NSR Mick]

33bhp is 33bhp. I would rather ride a 33bhp Diversion than R1 or Fireblade.
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[G]

I'd expect that most bikes you are considering will perform a little worse than a diversion in decent nick at 33hp; they are likely to have higher gearing, meaning they'll make relatively less use of the available power.

[Thom]

Maybe i should just shut up and live with what ive got until next april when i can buy a decent bike

Cheers lads, we'll see what i get upto after going to westgate road.
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Previous Bikes: 1990 Honda NSR125 'Rothmans' (The smoking one), 1990 Suzuki GS500e 'Caf? fighter' (The loud one), 1987 Kawasaki GPX400r (The quick one), 1997 XJ600s Diversion (The reliable one), 2000 Kawasaki ER-5 (The spontaneously combustive one)

[chris-red]

Buy a massive rear sprocket.
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WANTED:- Fujinon (Fuji) M42 (Screw on) lenses, let me know if you have anything.

[chillyman0]

mate, i have a restricted bandit 400.... im 17 stone and a mate i take on the back is about 18! thats in all about 35 stone!
shocking thing is it still pulls really well up to about 90! still give 1.6's and 1.8's a spanking
you just need to get yourself something revvy
divvys are rubish if you ask me...

[benjami]

I have a full power divvy.. still pretty slow.

So I just bought a GSXR 750, and have memorised my restriction

[Itchy]

[Villers]

[Noxious89123]

Just derestrict it already, like everyone else and their granmother does...
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[Robby]

If you're going to stick with 33bhp, go for a natural 33bhp bike. Any restricted bike is going to feel like it. A few will do the same trick as a diesel car of promising lots of power low down, then running out of puff in no time.

There's a fair chance you got fooled by this on a test ride. On a test ride I rarely really open it up and push hard, I get to know the bike for a few days first.

Off the top of my head - suzuki goose 350, honda srx400, cagiva river 500 or 600, assorted single cylinder trailies. In fact, probably half the middleweight single cylinder bikes would come out at 33bhp or less on a dyno. A lot of them have staid commuter looks, but bugger all weight and therefore pin sharp handling. You'd be surprised how good a single disc with a brembo caliper is when it's only stopping ~140kg with a reasonable wheelbase.

Restricting a bandit 12 to 33bhp is as bad as putting a bodykit on a corsa.

[Rob]

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[Legsy.]

There's something wrong with your bike by the sounds of it mate. 125cc bikes can go two up and do 60mph all day long!

[Rob]

[Rob]