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PostPosted: 22:17 - 03 Mar 2009    Post subject: Anyone got a Notebook mini laptop thing? Reply with quote

I'm considering buying some sort of mini laptop/notebook/PDA thing.

I'd be using it for web surfing (wireless) and watching movies, on journeys and in hotel rooms etc.

Does anyone have any recommendations? I ain't fussed about it having a million gig hard drive or anything like that.

Don't really fancy spending over 200 smackers either.
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PostPosted: 22:24 - 03 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have an asus 901 EEPC with linux the only thing is that its a tad clunky with internet video , youtube is ok , erm others like red tube are unsync'd with the sound.

But its small and neat and I got it cheap when I was in HK.
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PostPosted: 22:27 - 03 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Was playing with one of these in Carphone warehouse today; they're £154, and down to their last 12 in stock.

Asus SD701 7" EEE Mini PC
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PostPosted: 22:51 - 03 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

They are called netbooks FYI Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 22:58 - 03 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have one as my perminant computer, ( on it now )

Mine is very good and was 250 pound,
Its an advent.
160g hard drive 2 gig ram, its top Very Happy
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PostPosted: 23:00 - 03 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

BioHazard wrote:
I have one as my perminant computer, ( on it now )

Mine is very good and was 250 pound,
Its an advent.
160g hard drive 2 gig ram, its top Very Happy


I think he is more after information related to netbooks rather than laptops in general (unless you're using a very small external HDD with your netbook).

Be aware that all movies on a netbook will either need to be put onto a USB stick/external HDD or played through an external DVD drive.
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PostPosted: 23:17 - 03 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bit out of the OPs price bracket, but I went for the Dell Mini 9 - all solid state so no huge hard drive (though it's still bigger and faster than my first PC!) but very light, very quiet (no fan) and has good battery life. Bit fiddly to type on at first but you get used to it.
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PostPosted: 23:26 - 03 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use a Macbook Air as my portable machine.... but this: https://www.engadget.com/2009/01/09/dell-adamo-hands-on/ looks like it might be a good machine when it is released although not in the same price bracket as a small netbook!
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PostPosted: 14:52 - 04 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bought an Advent 4211 recently (which is just a rebranded msi wind) and it's been ok.

You can't expect a great deal from these things so i suppose it's about picking one with the least amount of negatives.

Battery is terrible on this thing, although i use linux mint which knocks about 30 mins off the battery life compared to xp which came with it.

You want to re-install xp to get rid of the tech guys partition they force on you? Better hope you have a spare hour or 2, xp disc & a 1gb memory stick..has to be 1gb because fat 16 is shit.

It struggles with some flash video at full screen. Notably on rev3 content. (again maybe a linux/flash issue)

I added an extra gb of ram to mine which did help it out with a few applications open but often it's the atom that's the weak link.

Keyboard isn't bad to type on, 3 usb ports, web cam, eithernet, wifi, bt, most of which i never use/need.
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PostPosted: 15:13 - 04 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

HP Mini-Note netbook is £190 on Ebuyer.

Well made, all the usual stuff. Linux but will take XP.

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PostPosted: 18:50 - 04 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nebzor wrote:

Be aware that all movies on a netbook will either need to be put onto a USB stick/external HDD or played through an external DVD drive.


Yeah, that is one disadvantage. But you can pick up large'ish USB sticks for decent prices these days. Could probably fit a fair few films/tv shows onto them.

I've read some reviews on the Asus SD701 7" EEE Mini PC. It sounds alright for the price (£154) but the screen resolution is putting me off.

I'll keep looking.
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PostPosted: 19:35 - 04 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

apple tango wrote:
Nebzor wrote:

Be aware that all movies on a netbook will either need to be put onto a USB stick/external HDD or played through an external DVD drive.


Yeah, that is one disadvantage. But you can pick up large'ish USB sticks for decent prices these days. Could probably fit a fair few films/tv shows onto them.

I've read some reviews on the Asus SD701 7" EEE Mini PC. It sounds alright for the price (£154) but the screen resolution is putting me off.

I'll keep looking.


I've got an Asus SD701 with XP.

The screen is small, nominally 800x480 (and XP then bitches about low screen resolution at startup), though you can set it to 800x600 or 1024x768 and it'll pan around the screen.

Movies you would need on USB or an SD card (the SD card can be useful as a second storage drive).

Battery life is not too bad. I don't use mine for playing movies tho, more wi-fi net access or bluetooth (using a microscopic dongle) connected to my k800i. Works sweet.

Go view the screen in a store before buying one tho. I thought I would hate the screen, but its not too bad when you're used to it.
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PostPosted: 20:14 - 04 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

ThoughtControl wrote:

Movies you would need on USB or an SD card (the SD card can be useful as a second storage drive).


Cheers fella, your comments are very useful.

Have you tried playing a movie at all? If so, did it take an age to load up Media Player? I know it can't be lightning speed, but i don't wanna be sat there getting irritated for 5 mins while it loads.

Whats the general performance like when using xp? I'm guessing you can't have lots of applications running at the same time etc.
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PostPosted: 21:32 - 04 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

apple tango wrote:

Have you tried playing a movie at all? If so, did it take an age to load up Media Player? I know it can't be lightning speed, but i don't wanna be sat there getting irritated for 5 mins while it loads.

Whats the general performance like when using xp? I'm guessing you can't have lots of applications running at the same time etc.


Up until a few minutes ago I hadn't.

Just installed VLC and tried Gran.Torino.2008.DVDRip-FxM.avi (799MB xvid) and American.Drug.War-.the.last.White.hope.avi (1.45GB) and both load and play fine using VLC. Seeking isn't a problem either.

That would be my media player of choice anyway. Media Player reports missing codec because I didn't install xvid (VLC uses ffmpeg to decode, it comes with the player). I've used it for internet radio fine too, using winamp over wi-fi.

If you do a search you'll find some people have run San Andreas on it (!?) and Flight Sim X even (like Wow! - choppy, but its like that on desktops sometimes) and some spod ran Reason at some silly latency (pocket studio anyone? Reaper and some VSTis maybe...), so the underclocked Celeron 900 doesn't do too bad.

Me, I got it because a taxi driver I know was selling it. He wanted to use it to surf using a mobile dongle during spare time in the cab, then realised he doesn't have THAT much spare time all in one go to play with, so I got it cheap, and its fun and can be useful.

When I originally saw pics online I couldn't understand why the screen was so small compared to the wide fascia, but the inch either side of the screen is taken up by the speakers, and they don't sound too bad.

7" sized screens were all that was about for mobile DVD players not so long ago and they do OK too for viewing in a small space or on the move. The little fucker's got a VGA out too, so I'm pretty impressed. Find a store that's got one and ask one of the intelligent staff to demo it. Bring your own loaded USB stick even Wink

Stores with only mindless "Would you like a warranty with that" drongos should be avoided.
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PostPosted: 18:44 - 19 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I decided to order an Acer AOA150-Ab Atom for £200.

The thing is, it doesn't come with a cd/dvd drive and has a Linux based OS pre-installed.

I'd like to format it and put XP on. Will there be any way of me doing this without splashing out 40 or so quid on an external cd/dvd drive?
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PostPosted: 00:22 - 20 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have an Asus eee 701 and a Samsung NC10. The eee was a great machine when I first got it. By far the smallest you can buy, but a poor 7" screen and a keyboard fit for a 4 year old makes it one to avoid. The CPU is poo too so youtube etc are useless.

The NC10 is just fantastic although a little pricey. The keyboard is great, nice big screen and plenty of processing punch for your mobile needs. The 6+ hours battery life ain't bad either Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 15:44 - 20 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

apple tango wrote:

I'd like to format it and put XP on. Will there be any way of me doing this without splashing out 40 or so quid on an external cd/dvd drive?


Here's the tutorial i used to re-install xp back onto my Advent. Ignoring the parts about drivers and hardware specific steps, you should be fine.
https://forums.msiwind.net/windows/msi-wind-nlite-tutorial-and-usb-flash-drive-install-t1337.html

But try searching for an nLite tutorial for your Acer, maybe find some driver packages along the way.

Note, FAT16 only works well upto a certain size, i had to buy a 1gb mem stick because of this. Might be worth getting a spare stick and keeping it as your XP recovery mem stick.
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PostPosted: 21:12 - 20 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've just bought a Dell Inspiron Mini 9 with a few extra trimmings today, and I'm pretty excited about getting hold of it.
Incidentally, those discount coupon sites are rather good, aren't they? I managed to get an extra 30 quid knocked off, so I paid 100 quid off SRP, thanks to Dell doing a free shipping and 50 quid off deal already...

I've been waiting for netbooks to happen for some years now: the only equivalent machine I was able to lay hands on was an ancient 10-inch thinkpad 240x, stuffed to the gills with a wifi card and strange workarounds to make it work properly in debian...
God bless the clever bastard that decided to make small notebooks cheap; I was never intending to buy a vaio, and definitely not at the prices they were asking, so tiny cheap machines is a godsend to the likes of me. Means I can do my job in the bar at work Wink
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PostPosted: 12:19 - 21 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep they're certainly cool. Mine arrived 30 min ago. I was messing about with it but needed a 'number 2' - so i've brought it with me to the toilet. Great stuff.

Only down side to mine is no cd drive. I think i'm gonna have to buy an external one as theres stuff i wanna install. I also wanna see how it can handle some games.
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PostPosted: 15:05 - 21 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

apple tango wrote:

Only down side to mine is no cd drive. I think i'm gonna have to buy an external one as theres stuff i wanna install. I also wanna see how it can handle some games.


Save some money by getting the iso for anything you want to install and installing them using daemon tools.
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PostPosted: 17:25 - 21 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

apple tango wrote:

Only down side to mine is no cd drive. I think i'm gonna have to buy an external one as theres stuff i wanna install. I also wanna see how it can handle some games.


If you have another PC simply share out the drive on that and access it over the network

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PostPosted: 19:31 - 21 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

As others have said, dont worry about an external drive even though they are cheap enough. Just rip the cd's onto a memory card of some sorts and transfer them over.

As for games, netbooks are pretty crap with the nasty intel 945G graphics, most modern games wont run for shit. I can confirm that even half life 2 is useless on my NC10, whereas HL1 works fine. Have a look over at the link below for a list of compatible games before you waste your time installing games that wont work anyway:

https://www.avforums.com/forums/pc-games/892153-netbook-gamers.html
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PostPosted: 23:39 - 25 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.aspireoneuser.com/forum/

Also there was a big thread about this netbook on the moneysavingexpert forum a few months ago, as Asda were selling them for £150 (when I got mine).

I installed windows on mine using a the connections for a USB Harddrive, but connected up a normal PC DVD drive - worked fine.
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