Im getting a new PC

[DKMonst3r]

Hi. Its my birthday soon and im getting a new PC from my parents . So i wanted to ask u guys what u think of this
https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Athlon-5000-4GB-DDR2-500GB-20xDVDRW-1GB-9400GT_W0QQitemZ370147088301QQihZ024QQcategoryZ179QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1742.m153.l1262

If u know anything bout PCs please reply.

[Drew]

What will you be using it for?

Do you have a 64bit os? as if not, the 4gig of memory is useless

Personally I wouldn't be buying an AMD pc right now.

[menz83]

Like Drew said, it would be god to know what you will be using the computer for. Do you realise that there is no operating system included i.e. when you turn the PC on, nothing will happen as there is no windows installed?

AMD arent bad cpu's, its just that Intel are so much better at present. 4GB ram is excessive for the average user and the graphics card included is dog slow. It will likely run most new games but only on the lowest settings.

For £100 more, I would look at something like the PC in the link below. Much better suited for gaming but again, there is no operating system included:

https://www.ebuyer.com/product/159381

If your folks are rich, have a gander at this bad boy:

https://3xs.scan.co.uk/ShowSystem.asp?SystemID=827

EDIT: I just added up all the components over at ebuyer. If you were to build yourself, it would cost £256 so a premium of £40 for the guy to build it for you aint that bad. All in all, its not a bad PC and im sure it would see you through many years to come. Just dont expect to play Crysis at 1080p with max settings!

[Netting87]

Maybe if you wait for the new AMD AM3 processors, the cost of the AM2s may come down?

I think they're due any time now.
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[The Artist]

I bult my computer for that price including a flatscreen monitor, 5.1 surround sound speakers and mouse and keyboard.

And its better

Intel at the moment
ATI graphics cards aswell.

Reverse of a few years ago this is, used to be AMD and nvidia.

Oh and the computer in that link, I have that case without the big fan on the side. tis good

[DKMonst3r]

Thx for all the replies. Decided not to buy it after my dad called his mate who builds and sells PCs. He said its not to waste money coz theres barely any info there. Fuck knows what kinda rubbish parts they put in there. So ill buy one from him.

Btw ill be using the PC for gaming mostly . Ill post the specs when i get it .

[menz83]

[JonB]

On the graphics front it is easy to say go ATI, however Nvidia have much better drivers and still some of their cards which are physically inferior to ATI's are still performing better. Give a budget for a craphics card and would be easier to say what card to go for.

For CPU's there is no contest, Intel all the way.
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[DKMonst3r]

Well then i won an auction today for £250. Its a good PC for the games i play and most importantly it has a good mother board and power supply which allows me to upgrade it later on. Here are the specs:

AMD Athlon X2 Duel Core 3800+
ASUS A8N-SLI SE nForce Sli (socket 939) PCI - Express Motherboard (can run 2 graphics cards with this board) 4 ram slots
Samsung Spinpoint P SP2504C 250GB SATA-II 8mb Cache - OEM
BFG 3DFuzion Geforce 7600 GT 256MB GDDR3 TV-OUT/DVI (PCI-EXPRESS)
Liteon DRW-6S160P-05C 16X16 DVD+RW Duel Layer ReWriter
Thermaltake Armour Jr Supermidi Tower (looks awesome, glows blue)
HIPER hpu-4b580 Type R 580W modular ATX2.2 PSU
Legit and registered Windows XP Professional 5.1.2600 Service pack 3 .. installed and ready to go
Can Be Overclocked.. everything can be customised/upgraded

I dont know about the ram he hasnt mentioned it . If theres some shitty ram ill put 2x2gb kingstone in it or summit. Wat u think?

[JonB]

For the price it will do. But the graphics card is woefully underpowered for most games made in 2008 onwards. You've also scored a bit of an own goal with the motherboard as you have now restricted yourself to AMD and development has now moved to the AM3 socket motherboards.

Yes the PSU is good, but I can see you spending a lot of money on that machine in the near future. I do have the same HDD though, it's very quiet, if a bit slow.
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[ncrn]

Yeah if you have the money I would try swap the 7600 for something better, it will run most games but not to a great standard. An 8600 would be a marked improvement on it, but an 8800 would be even better still.
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[JonB]

I actually can't believe what a P.O.S you bought for £250.
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[DKMonst3r]

[JonB]

Well tell me a budget and I will, but i'm guessing that if your budget is going to be £250 then you will be buying second hand. If you could build it yourself it would help with costings, but i'm not really into trailing through ebay for second hand PC's. Sorry. My advice would be to look for a good intel processor. A pentium dual core are usually quite cheap.
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[menz83]

I built a socket 939 PC for my nephew.... for xmas 2006!!

[DKMonst3r]

[WildGoose]

You got shafted.

Don't mean to rain on your parade, but I bought an Asus A8N32-Sli Deluxe motherboard in 06 when I was building a PC, it's now completely obsolete, and you can't even buy new socket 939 processors. The best available was the single core 4000 or the dual core 4400. (not including FX models, which were always stupidly expensive and quite hard to find towards the end).

The 3800 was nothing to write home about, even at the time of release.

So youve really shot yourself in the foot with that as its completely un-upgradeable.
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[gherking]

Ditto. I wanted a nice small shuttle pc for ages, and finally got the SN95G5.
The thing looks gorgeous, and I got the optional carry case to lug it up and down the country.

6 months later, the socket 939 was obsolete.
7 months later, the AGP slot was obsolete.

But I stuck with it for another three years and have just bought a mac mini and I'm putting an SSD drive in it

[SoND]

[gherking]

Yeah, I know, shocking!

It's defiantly a compromise for expandability - basic gaming only for me. I will of course be dual booting - what kind of techie would I be if I couldn't add another operating system to my knowledge base? It's my main reason for being an early adopter of Vista, I couldn't stand being left out in the cold.

If I had a big wallet, I'd have a netbook, a cheap gaming desktop, the mac, and an xbox 360 for other games. As it is I have the mac and am saving for a 360... then comes the netbook after that.

Hope you like your new pc, LaPeace!

[DKMonst3r]

Lovin the new PC man. Runs all the games i play on medium or high with no lags at all. Will be upgrading the ram soon ish to 2gb coz thats all i need rlly. Id buy a new graphics card but aint got the money coz i wanna get a new helmet .