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owdamer
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PostPosted: 21:59 - 26 Mar 2009    Post subject: 60's technology to the rescue. Reply with quote

My boiler died on tuesday until I can get a new one fitted i'm on oil filled radiators to keep the house at a reasonable temperature, and an electric blanket to keep us from freezing in the night.
Biggest problem was the lack of hot water. A kettle full of water doesn't really stretch very far and as the g/f has very long hair she was wondering how she was going to wash it. My dad came to the rescue. He has a baby burco that my mum used to wash my nappies in 40 years ago. When he suggested it I was a little dubious, but we were desperate so we tried it. Its brilliant. I think it holds about 5 gallons. I half filled it, plugged it in and left it. 10 mins later and the waters pretty much boiling.
I dread to think how much electricity it uses, but as the boilers fucked i guess we dont have to worry bout gas bills!. lol.
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PostPosted: 22:08 - 26 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

probably just needs the pilot relighting

mine has blown out twice over the last 2 days, because its been very windy

you will need to open a flap on your boiler or something probably and follow the instructions to relight

on mine, its hold one button in while sparking with the other button
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PostPosted: 22:17 - 26 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

colin1 wrote:
probably just needs the pilot relighting

mine has blown out twice over the last 2 days, because its been very windy

you will need to open a flap on your boiler or something probably and follow the instructions to relight

on mine, its hold one button in while sparking with the other button


If it's like any gas boiler I've ever had, the thermocouple will have gone bye-bye. The pilot lights but as soon as you take your finger off the button, it goes out.

Thermocouples cost no more than a tenner, have one or two wires sticking out and are usually held in place in a hole by one screw.

Expect to pay no less that a hundred quid to get one replaced by a CORGI registered gas fitter.

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PostPosted: 22:19 - 26 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cool, Your GF has hair with bits of your baby poo in it. It puts the whole "Circle of life" thing into perspective.
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PostPosted: 22:20 - 26 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

colin1 wrote:
probably just needs the pilot relighting

mine has blown out twice over the last 2 days, because its been very windy

you will need to open a flap on your boiler or something probably and follow the instructions to relight

on mine, its hold one button in while sparking with the other button


Fraid not. tis fooked. The the pcbs have fried themselves.
Something has been leaking inside and everythings coated it a gooey substance. It is repairable, but it would be costly so i'm cutting my losses and getting it replaced.
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PostPosted: 22:34 - 26 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:


If it's like any gas boiler I've ever had, the thermocouple will have gone bye-bye. The pilot lights but as soon as you take your finger off the button, it goes out.

Thermocouples cost no more than a tenner, have one or two wires sticking out and are usually held in place in a hole by one screw.

Expect to pay no less that a hundred quid to get one replaced by a CORGI registered gas fitter.

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mine just does it when its windy, and then is fine for months if its not windy

although if this time for me turns out to be different, i will remember this advice

(colin goes off to check his radiator)

radiator is hot, so I'm ok, even if owdamer isnt
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PostPosted: 22:46 - 26 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sat near my oil filled rad so quite warm. Its a pain not being about to have a shower in't morning tho. Got a bit of a break from it over the weekend as we'll go to our static. We'll be nice n warm there and the shower is brilliant. Wont want to come home on sunday tho.
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PostPosted: 13:25 - 27 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Owdamer wrote:
colin1 wrote:
probably just needs the pilot relighting

mine has blown out twice over the last 2 days, because its been very windy

you will need to open a flap on your boiler or something probably and follow the instructions to relight

on mine, its hold one button in while sparking with the other button


Fraid not. tis fooked. The the pcbs have fried themselves.
Something has been leaking inside and everythings coated it a gooey substance. It is repairable, but it would be costly so i'm cutting my losses and getting it replaced.


You can join the Britsh Gas Homecare thingy and have your boiler fixed as soon as you pay. Makes your first years cover very cheap.

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PostPosted: 21:49 - 28 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had exactly what Stinkwheel said in my Glow-Worm.



Yeah that is infuriating to deal with when it's on its way out, waking up in the morning to a shower that isn't hot when I've finished having a shit.
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PostPosted: 23:16 - 28 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You can join the Britsh Gas Homecare thingy and have your boiler fixed as soon as you pay. Makes your first years cover very cheap.

Mark


We have it here, service is shit but its cheap cover and gets your boiler fixed for you (eventually). Your electric bills will be sky high running that thing.
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PostPosted: 00:13 - 29 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

British Gas homecare thing was excellent for me.

Boiler broke Saturday evening, rang them up and they were round Sunday morning and had it fixed in an hour or so. Without having to give them any money for parts or labour! (except the £10 odd a month obviously).
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PostPosted: 00:17 - 29 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got a Worcester Bosch boiler and I've got their maintenance plan. Its pretty damn good and costs about £112 a year. Its more than paid for itself as since moving in here (about four years ago) I've had five new heat exchangers fitted. Combi boilers don't work well in hard water areas, but who cares when you get an engineer to your house to fix it within a couple of days?

Luckily the heating has never packed up (touch wood) just hot water, but still I'm really glad I bought the service contract.
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PostPosted: 00:47 - 29 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

My boiler broke just before christmas and if i'm honest,i'm glad.As when my mate came to have a look at it (he's a plumber but not gas fitter) and pointed out it was well and truly shafted,he also pointed out that my ornamental open fire was in fact,a real fire,complete with back boiler,he got me a used tank from a modernisation job he was on and within a couple of days had ripped out my combi and plumbed in the original system,sounds simple but there was a lot of work to do after(plastering and decorating).Get firewood by the bootload for free from a local garage door company and a skip hire firm,and if fires not lit i simply turn imerson heater on for hot water,not only do i save about £75pm on gas but my shower no longer scalds me if some twat turns a tap on,hot water runs faster and i don't need a gas fitter if it breaks.IMO combi boilers are s**t
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PostPosted: 10:53 - 29 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

SoulRider wrote:


We have it here, service is shit but its cheap cover and gets your boiler fixed for you (eventually). Your electric bills will be sky high running that thing.


They came out same day for me.
Plumber was quoting at least £200 (when he'd eventually be able to come).

BG came out same day.

I have all my gas, electrics and drainage covered.

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PostPosted: 14:41 - 29 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

For us every year we have the free service and every year we are then without gas for 2-3 days as they have messed something up.

They have left us with a gas leak, forgot to switch our gas back on twice. It took them 4 months to sort out our heating which kept turning of in the evening and would not come back on. They broke our fireplace and again it took them around 2 months to get that sorted lol. I normally wouldnt recomend them but if you willing to put up with the crap service then its a cheap way to get your heating eventually sorted.
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PostPosted: 23:20 - 29 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

My fucking ancient gas boiler (must be 25 years old at least) has broken twice in the last 8 years. Both times after switching it off for an extended period, both times it was the thermocouple which I fixed for a tenner.

On a boiler service contract at £10 per month I'd have spent £960 for £20 worth of parts and four twiddles of a screwdriver. I'd also have had to fit a new boiler and flue because a "registered" gas technician would have comdemned it due to its antiquated design.

I am very careful to not allow any members of the gas board see my boiler.

Contract, schmontract.
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PostPosted: 23:38 - 29 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
My fucking ancient gas boiler (must be 25 years old at least) has broken twice in the last 8 years. Both times after switching it off for an extended period, both times it was the thermocouple which I fixed for a tenner.

On a boiler service contract at £10 per month I'd have spent £960 for £20 worth of parts and four twiddles of a screwdriver. I'd also have had to fit a new boiler and flue because a "registered" gas technician would have comdemned it due to its antiquated design.

I am very careful to not allow any members of the gas board see my boiler.

Contract, schmontract.

To be on the safe side you could get a carbon monoxide alarm.
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PostPosted: 00:47 - 30 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vin wrote:

To be on the safe side you could get a carbon monoxide alarm.


There's nothing unsafe about it. It's just not modern. It's a common, reliable and widely used make and model of boiler. Just there is a move by the gas industry to get everyone on combi boilers, which are shit and unreliable.

It's nothing more than a racket. The regulations regarding boilers are altered year on year so you keep having to replace them regularly. Thing is, if they come in and see a "non compliant" boiler/gas appliance, they condemn it and disconnect your gas until you've bought a new one. Got you by the short and curlies.

I'm strongly resisting a combi boiler being fitted because I believe that while it will use slightly less gas, it will fail to provide me with adequate and consistant heating and hot water. This has been the case anywhere I've stayed that has one. My boiler is on for two hours a day. It keeps my house warm enough and I never run out of hot water.
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PostPosted: 08:26 - 30 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with you about combi boilers and when they fail they can fail dangerously.
I have an old boiler too which is rarely serviced and reliable so we are in almost total agreement.
I mentioned CO alarms as a way of securing peace of mind. Lots of people read these threads so it wasn't really just aimed at you. If you are happy you are safe then thats fine.
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PostPosted: 18:46 - 30 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

We had a plumber out last week. He's quoted us £1860 + vat to supply and fit a worcester boiler. I had a search round the net and I can buy the boiler myself for between £700-£750. Now i dont mind paying someone to do the work, But a grand for fitting a boiler? Thats taking the piss.
We've got another plumber coming round tonight to have a look, and we've got a guy comeing on wednesday who has given us a rough quote of £1200 + vat.
I'm not rushing into anything. We've had the worst of the cold weather now. Its only going to improve from here, albeit with the odd cold spell. We've only got the oil filled rads on in the evenings as we're at work all day, and at weekends we go to our static caravan.
Its warm there (2 oil filled rads as it happens, and we have hot running water!)
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