One for the livestock.

[Hetzer]

Found by Madman:

https://yannone.blogspot.com/2008/11/most-dangerous-video-on-internet.html

Now I know it's going to make the usual victims squeak, that's a given, but for the rest of you with your eyes wide open it should give an intrestingly novel perspective on the issue.
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[Dischord]

Very interesting thinking
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[Phoenix]

Not impressed, I don't see anything particularly insightful in that, it's exactly how the world works and we all know it, it's just put into a slide show with a very very slow narration for dummies. You can never be truly free to do what you want and nobody ever has been unless they lived in a virtually unpopulated world in a corner all by themself, when you share a planet with other people you cannot just do anything you want.

If if there was a society* that was truly free it wouldn't last long because it would get dominated by other societies that would take advantage of it, read the comments it's all summed up in there.

*The very word of a society means they would not be free otherwise they would just be individuals living in close proximity, it cannot and would not ever exist.

[bazza]

I reckon he's watched the Matrix too many times. I spent most of the 16 minutes thinking "that's the worst Agent Smith impression ever".

The actual content was laughable. He's not happy with how society works so he want everyone else to smash it for him.

It's a great argument if you want to human race to revert back to bashing each other with clubs and eating their own shit.

Still, at least they'd be "free", eh?
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[Hetzer]

The question is (one that he ignores), is society a form of slavery by deliberate design or is it that way as an accidental consequence?

That's the whole basis of the 'Illuminati' type conspiracy theories. That the elite deliberately engineered society to be the way it is so that the prols would work their guts out producing all the nice goodies for the wealthy few. Which is exactly how it's panned out. But deliberately so or accidentally?

I do believe there is a global conspiracy, and J.F.K. was very likely assassinated for seeing it and calling it out. But I don't believe it's as well organized and maintained as some others believe, I believe it's more of an ad-hoc 'pushing things along in a general direction' kind of deal. Where they (the scum) can make it as they like it, they do. Where they can't they just muddle along. And a lot of the wealthy aren't involved in any way, it's just that the way to make personal wealth tends to involve slave-like exploitation of the less fortunate as a natural consequence. The whole thing (deliberate and accidental) meshes together in a natural way and produces the vile result we experience.

There are two societal extremes...zero control (anarchy) and total control (tyranny). Currently we are living under the tyrannical extreme. There's a middle ground, and it needs to be taken.
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[Vin]

[Hetzer]

[Itchy]

[Vin]

I can't help but feel that whatever changes are made to bring about a fairer society it will be undone by human nature. We are competitive beasts and, by in large, want to better our neighbours. Which ever society model you choose the greedy and the mean will find ways of manipulating it.
Just like the communist model failed.
Very disappointed you couldn't produce a concise summary of the Hetzer plan for world harmony.

[Vin]

Itchy, the choice as you described doesn't sound very free,
What if I change my mind? And the freeman world will be a complete lawless mess. Survival of the fittest?

[Hetzer]

[Itchy]

[bazza]

[igiyf]

The answer comes from being you own "farmer"-farming your own life-
the problem is its not just the case of most aren't capable of this its that they aren't even aware they aren't in charge to start with.

[Skudd]

So how do you become your own farner and how would you tell the " own farmer" from the " livestock" ?

Please keep within the realms of reality and a true timescale.
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[igiyf]

[Skudd]

[igiyf]

[Hetzer]

Bazza and Skudd, so long as you continue to skate along on the surface, never bothering to put your own heads under and taking a look for yourselves, you will never understand. You ask pointless questions and make pointless comments, intended to derogate rather than actually learn anything.

But anyway...Bazza...

If somebody tells you to do something, without your consent, that's a "farmer". If somebody offers to do something, with your consent, that's a "shepherd". Both are leaders. Think for yourself, read between the lines, and stop thinking you're being so clever while actually doing little more than making yourself look like just another thick Sun-reading piss-taker. I shouldn't have to point out every obvious tiny little detail for you.

Skudd, I believe that answer pretty much addresses your question too. You become your "own farmer" by demanding and getting leadership by consent, instead of by dictation. And only in those matters where a universal rule is absolutely required (which would get rid of at least 90% of all the current 'laws').

But this is the difference between intellect and non-intellect. Both appear equally clever on the surface, but when it comes to genuinely in-depth thinking one is able, the other is not. You see nothing but fog, while others see all the way to the horizon. That's why you mock, it's your way of dealing with your blindness.
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[Skudd]

[igiyf]

[Hetzer]

[igiyf]

I think the most productive thing for those who have had enough to do is find a land where there is no government but plenty of people-

Put fluoride in there water tell them the word "may" now means "must",the term "sign over owner ship of all you have to us" no longer exists..believe us we have credible experts who say so...but you must Register everything you have with us..just so..it will be safe!

With those two tools we can create every form of control we need but we shall be nicer to our citizens! the currency will be much more chilled out and relaxed in fact we will take the monetary system to a new level and it will be environmentally friendly..green all the way

[Skudd]

[igiyf]