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ncrn
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PostPosted: 21:18 - 02 Apr 2009    Post subject: Surface Mount Soldering + PCB questions Reply with quote

Hey; I'm at uni at the moment studying robotics, which means I build a lot of electronic hardware. I've been experimenting with making my own PCBs and I've gotten pretty good at etching PCBs and soldering through hole components to them, and while this works well everything comes out large and its not very neat, and I feel a bit limited by what I can do.

I've done a bit of research on surface mount soldering and it looks like something I can do, but I was wondering if anyone had advice about decent soldering irons to use, as I use the uni irons at the moment and they are quite large so I'm not sure how good they would be.

Also does anyone have any advice as to how I can join top and bottom layers of PCBs in a good quality method, currently I'm poking bits of wire through the two layers and soldering on each end, its not neat and its very time consuming. Looking at professionally done boards they tend to have the gap inbetween layers plated, how is this done?

Also another question how do they make the boards green and solder resistant?

Not sure if all the questions are answerable but any advice would be great as I'm hoping to make a really good quality robot for my final year project rather than the sky-wired bodge-bot I built this year Laughing.

Thank you.
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PostPosted: 00:14 - 03 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought most 'professional' PCBs were generally multi layer boards, where they have tracks on the top and bottom, but actually on different layers in the middle aswell.

As for irons, you'd want something fairly low power i presume, and obviously with a fine tip.

Not sure what you mean by solder resistant, the green colour is just the colour of the board that they etch onto i think. They may clean the boards after soldering the components on. But on large scale production (tellies or whatnot) then it will be robotics soldering anyway so they will use exactly the right amount of solder and flux, hence it will look VERY neat.
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PostPosted: 10:43 - 03 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Also does anyone have any advice as to how I can join top and bottom layers of PCBs in a good quality method


I used to use the little metal posts when soldering a via because using wire it was difficult to trim the wire short after the solder was on. I studyed elec engineering 10 years ago so I would imagine things will have moved on a bit!

Anything that is manufactured tends to have seperate ground and power planes which run the entire length of the board (in the middle) and are done with wave or reflow soldering; not the kind of stuff your uni will have access to unless you're lucky. Once you deal with higher frequencies you need coupling/decoupling lines too. It becomes unfeasable to make especailly fancy youreslf.

My third year team project was to make a "line following robot" basically a car that followed a painted line on the floor. Fastest to complete a 20m lap won a case of beer - woohoo.
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PostPosted: 12:28 - 03 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some videos on youtube show some good techniques for it, but look's like you'd need some practice to get it right.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NN7UGWYmBY

What microcontrollers do you use for your robotics at uni?
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PostPosted: 15:52 - 03 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perhaps the green stuff is just the board type, I will have to look into that.

Just looked up what a reflow soldering oven is and nope there is nothing like that which I have access to at uni, and I doubt I could afford anything like that.

The video is great though, I'm amazed at some of the techniques he uses especially when he is basically shorting tracks but they don't remain shorted.

At the moment we are using PIC Micro controllers, but I've played with arduinos and we're looking at ARM processors soon, also briefly looked at XMOS chips but they are a bit crap for mobile robots due to their lack of ADC.
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