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Al
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PostPosted: 15:43 - 04 Apr 2009    Post subject: The rising price of 2-stroke oil Reply with quote

6000miles a year on a Vespa means that I get through a fair bit of 2-smoke oil.
These have been bought over the last 5-6months.
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I thought oil prices had come right down (weak £??? Confused ), I know these are all from the same shop, but I've been looking at a few garages and they seem to be going up at an alarming rate as well.

Might start stocking up if it carries on rising at this rate Thinking
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PostPosted: 15:52 - 04 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've noticed this.

My Carlube £2 a litre is now £3 a litre Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: 16:21 - 04 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is probably all related to the rise in crude oil prices that we saw last year. Where as fuel (petrol/diesel) is a fast turn around commodity which will reflect the crude oil price quickly, I would guess that your 2 stroke mix oil isn't really and as such takes a long time for the price to rise and fall in accordance with the crude oil price.

Consider how often your bike dealer will sell a bottle of that 2 stroke oil, then think how many times a year he orders in his stock of that product - it won't be many. Consider that the supplier (Putoline) will have the oil in stock for a long time after it is made and before it is sold on to your dealer etc and then you can see why the chain of price rises takes so long to come down the line.

In theory it should start to get cheaper rather than more expensive but as we often see with many things, prices go up when they have reason to, but never seem to come down when the shoe is on the other foot.
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PostPosted: 16:26 - 04 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm lucky enough to buy it gallons at a time because of my racing, requires a lot of it. So I just use the same stuff for my RS.

But man, that is some increase. Confused

Should end up getting cheaper though.
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PostPosted: 16:43 - 04 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's no way I'd put £7.50/l synthetic 2 stroke in a Vespa!
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PostPosted: 16:47 - 04 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

RXS100_Chris wrote:
There's no way I'd put £7.50/l synthetic 2 stroke in a Vespa!


It's better for the engine Rolling Eyes Wink
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PostPosted: 16:51 - 04 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

RXS100_Chris wrote:
There's no way I'd put £7.50/l synthetic 2 stroke in a Vespa!


My 2poke oil is £13.50 or so a litre. It doesn't add that much to the running costs, you'd add a lot more without it. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 17:01 - 04 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paulington wrote:
RXS100_Chris wrote:
There's no way I'd put £7.50/l synthetic 2 stroke in a Vespa!


My 2poke oil is £13.50 or so a litre. It doesn't add that much to the running costs, you'd add a lot more without it. Rolling Eyes


Debatable.

If it's not a engine that is highly tuned and under a lot of stress, then splashing out extra money on 2 stroke oil is pointless as it will outweigh the cost of an engine rebuild once that time arrives.

Like when people put £10+ a litre synthetic 2 stroke oil in 3hp 50cc scooters. Utterly pointless.

A Vespa engine isn't exactly highly tuned, so synthetic oil is a bit over the top in my opinion.
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PostPosted: 17:07 - 04 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well it was only £5.99 a few months ago Smile

The cheap stuff seems to gunk up the plug after a few hundred miles. This is what a Vespa specialist recommended and it has been fine on synthetic Putoline, the plug looks brand new even after 2000miles of short journeys, so it pays for its self really.
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PostPosted: 17:36 - 04 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

ms51ves3 wrote:

Debatable.

If it's not a engine that is highly tuned and under a lot of stress, then splashing out extra money on 2 stroke oil is pointless as it will outweigh the cost of an engine rebuild once that time arrives.

Like when people put £10+ a litre synthetic 2 stroke oil in 3hp 50cc scooters. Utterly pointless.

A Vespa engine isn't exactly highly tuned, so synthetic oil is a bit over the top in my opinion.


My oil is designed for my racing kart which revs to like 16,000 RPM and is rebuilt every 30 hours because of being so highly tuned.

So rather than buy other stuff, I just use that. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 17:52 - 04 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Last week the tyre manufacturers put their prices up too, again linked to the price of oil...
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PostPosted: 18:36 - 04 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

beatnck2 wrote:
Last week the tyre manufacturers put their prices up too, again linked to the price of oil...


beatnck this is nothing to do with the price of 2stroke oil, but f**k man has anyone every told you you look like Clint Eastwood, I was stunned man your a dead ringer for him Smile
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PostPosted: 19:42 - 04 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I get it all the time dude, i really cant go anywhere without being mobbed.. Rolling Eyes


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PostPosted: 23:00 - 04 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

7.50? aint bad at all!
I used to use a bottle of Castrol TTS every 4 tanks at 13.50 a pop for my RS.
Pretty much added 25% to my petrol costs and only ever got about 55mpg out of it.
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PostPosted: 23:05 - 04 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

The putoline where i live is £11.99! When i had my ped i used to buy the cheap shit from the petrol stations fo £2, never had any problems. When i got the nsr i only used the finest blend, grown in the hills of columbia.... Wink
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PostPosted: 23:10 - 04 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Al wrote:
Well it was only £5.99 a few months ago Smile

The cheap stuff seems to gunk up the plug after a few hundred miles. This is what a Vespa specialist recommended and it has been fine on synthetic Putoline, the plug looks brand new even after 2000miles of short journeys, so it pays for its self really.


Except a spark plug is about £2?
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PostPosted: 08:50 - 05 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

blutonium92 wrote:
7.50? aint bad at all!
I used to use a bottle of Castrol TTS every 4 tanks at 13.50 a pop for my RS.
Pretty much added 25% to my petrol costs and only ever got about 55mpg out of it.


But an RS is putting out a hell of a lot of power for it's cubic capacity. A Vespa isn't.

Pickledswede wrote:
Except a spark plug is about £2?


A spark plug cleaner is probably about the same price and that's all it would need, a clean.
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PostPosted: 08:20 - 06 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

You use so much, so why not buy it by much larger quantites. Smooth out the price a bit....

Always used to buy it by the gallon before.
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