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PostPosted: 11:37 - 07 Apr 2009    Post subject: Cigarette Packet rantings Reply with quote

I know this topic boils a lot of people's piss but I thought it necessary to bring it up again (for no good reason really, just that I was a bit confused). Found a packet of cigarettes in the Union last night and saw one of the new warning stickers on it. I stopped smoking a few years back, so I saw the transition from the small health warnings to the massive black and white stickers. I think by this stage in life, people know smoking is bad for you. That's a given. However, at least the black and white ones make sense! Stuff like 'Smoking seriously harms you and others around you' is fair enough - it does. However what really got me was the new, more graphic ones on the back. I see what they are trying to do, but they don't even have real solid scientific backing behind the gorey picures! Take the pic below as an example;

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From right to left they get more stupid!
Far Right; Yeah, it does indeed clog the arteries, but what is shown is some open heart surgery - not clogged arteries!

Middle one; Okay, it can cause a slow and painful death, but this pic obviously shows someone who has had a tumour resected from their neck. If the pic said 'Smoking can cause painful tumours of the head and neck' then I wouldn't have so much of a problem with it.

and finally the one on the Far Left; Again it correctly identifies that smoking does indeed contain harmful chemicals but what it fails to mention is that the picture of the mouth is shows someone who is most probably on methadone! You would have to be severely compramised before smoking alone could do that to your mouth! If they had said, 'Smoking can increase your risk of periodontal problems', or 'Smoking can cause staining of your teeth and restorations' or 'Smoking can reduce your saliva flow and increase your risk of dental decay' and shown a picture related to one of these facts. The picture there shows someone who has massively neglected their mouth - it wasn't CAUSED by smoking. Smoking may have played a part, but it may aswell say 'If you smoke you are a dirty, filthy individual' because that's what they've tried to achieve!

Sorry to pour pertol on the already raging fire of the smokers' rights brigade, but that is just not on in my book!
Cheers, Stu
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PostPosted: 12:11 - 07 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trust the dentist to get worked up about teeth Razz
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PostPosted: 12:17 - 07 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I quite agree. That person may be a smoker, but having teeth that bad has exactly sweet FA to do with smoking.

Then there's the 'droopy' fag one that's supposed to imply that smoking causes impotence. Pah, tell that to me when I've got a raging hard on!
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PostPosted: 14:06 - 07 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't smoke, never have done, never will, I don't like being around smokers when they smoke, don't like the smell on clothes etc, but those pictures are offensive, even as a none smoker I think they are too extreme. They would put me off doing anything if I saw them, in fact I was just going to turn off the pc when I saw them.
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PostPosted: 14:07 - 07 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

America - Fuck yeah!

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*Goes to smoke a cigarette inside a pub*
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PostPosted: 16:36 - 07 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

McGee wrote:
America - Fuck yeah!

*Goes to smoke a cigarette inside a pub*


I see they don't have 'Lights' written on them. Is that America's concession to the cigarette packaging or have they always just been Marlboro 'Blend 27's?
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PostPosted: 16:56 - 07 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used to smoke, off them a god while now and have managed not to kill anyone yet. I went cold turkey, anyway thats not the point I am about to rant about also.

I seen them stupid warnings and I know smoking was dangerous but to be honest have never seen anyone have what them pictures where showing on the packets. Bit over the top Confused Never turned me off smoking either, I done it for my son. I dont rant at people who smoke either. I hate them types. Its your body do whatever you will to it.

I am still waiting to feel better from giving up though. All I feel is strangly calmer and cannot stop eating!
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PostPosted: 17:24 - 07 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's a fucking disgusting moustache. Sick
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PostPosted: 17:39 - 07 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Suitor_Stu wrote:
I see they don't have 'Lights' written on them. Is that America's concession to the cigarette packaging or have they always just been Marlboro 'Blend 27's?


They have like 12 different versions of Marlboro here.

27's are like reds only better and you pay for them Mad Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 17:40 - 07 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

i've smoked for nigh on 16 years,

teeth are fine, wierd what brushing em twice a day can accomplish.
impotence pah, have to keep it strapped to me leg!
low jizz count double pah, 2 healthy kids proves that wrong,
bad breath, see brushing of teeth.
clogged arteries, most probably but i also eat fried food which surely is just as responsible.
but in the same (not smelling like stale fag smoke, cos i brush my teeth twice daily) breath, i am also physically fit, probably not as fit as i should be but can easily hold me own in any rumbles at work and can also keep up a fair pace on the treadmill or out for a jog. smoking is bad for you no arguments but its also a personal choice. and beside s which all the cool kids smoke.

right i'm off for a ciggie!!!!!
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PostPosted: 18:41 - 07 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

The ones with a picture of a hypodermic needle get me. Smoking is as bad as shooting up, seriously? Shocked

Maybe they should put up pictures of naked obese people in mcdonalds. Maybe that would make us more healthy.
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PostPosted: 19:13 - 07 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

JoeTheNihilist wrote:
Maybe they should put up pictures of naked obese people in mcdonalds. Maybe that would make us more healthy.


And pictures of pissed arseholes making dicks out of themselves by puking on the children they just killed in the car accident that they will have on alcohol, including expensive wines.

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PostPosted: 20:28 - 07 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

McGee wrote:
Goes to smoke a cigarette inside a pub


C*nt. Laughing God I miss smoking in pubs.

Teeth, mine are f*cked now anyway, smoking or not.

Low sperm count? Hate kids so not a problem.

Cancer & heart attacks etc. Hope not but probably one day. Lets face it non smokers die of these things all the time.

Horrible pictures on baccy/fag packets? My baccy tins don't have horrible pics. Wink

I'll quit when I think it's time to quit not 'cause the goverment wants me too. Christ even my GP said I was alright. Laughing
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PostPosted: 23:55 - 07 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 11:49 - 08 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

No Cure for Cancer - 1992 wrote:
There's a guy- I don't know if you've heard about this guy, he's been on the news a lot lately. There's a guy- he's English, I don't think we should hold that against him, but apparently this is just his life's dream because he is going from country to country. He has a senate hearing in this country coming up in a couple of weeks. And this is what he wants to do. He wants to make the warnings on the packs bigger. Yeah! He wants the whole front of the pack to be the warning. Like the problem is we just haven't noticed yet. Right? Like he's going to get his way and all of the sudden smokers around the world are going to be going, "Yeah, Bill, I've got some cigarettes.. HOLY SHIT! These things are bad for you! Shit, I thought they were good for you! I thought they had Vitamin C in them and stuff!" You fucking dolt! Doesn't matter how big the warnings are. You could have cigarettes that were called the warnings. You could have cigarrets that come in a black pack, with a skull and a cross bone on the front, called tumors and smokers would be lined up around the block going, "I can't wait to get my hands on these fucking things! I bet you get a tumor as soon as you light up! Numm Numm Numm Numm Numm" Doesn't matter how big the warnings are or how much they cost. Keep raising the prices, we'll break into your houses to get the fucking cigarettes, ok!? They're a drug, we're addicted, ok!? Numm Numm Numm Numm Numm *wheeze*


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PostPosted: 16:04 - 08 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apparently every cigarette you smoke takes 10 minutes off your life.

So if you smoke 10 a day, just get up an hour and 40 minutes earlier than normal and; hey presto, you got it back.
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PostPosted: 16:18 - 08 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

No Cure for Cancer wrote:
The filters the best part. That's where they put the heroine. Only us real good smokers know that fucking secret. Yeah, we tried to be nice to you non-smokers. We tried. But you just fucking badger us, you know? You won't leave us alone! You got all your little speeches you're always giving to us. All these little facts that you dig out of a newspaper or pamphlet and you store that little nugget in your little fucking head, and we light up and you spew 'em out at us, don't ya? I love these little facts. "Well you know. Smoking takes ten years off your life." Well it's the ten worst years, isn't it folks? It's the ones at the end! It's the wheelchair kidney dialysis fucking years. You can have those years! We don't want 'em, alright!? And I guarantee if I'm still alive, I'll be smoking then. I'll be in my wheelchair, with my adult diapers on and my twenty-five year old non- smoking born again christian son behind me. I'll be going, "Hey! Make sure you wipe this time. I was itching all week for Christ's sake! And get me some more wippets. I'm almost out, you fucking pussy! Come on!"

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PostPosted: 12:34 - 09 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You could have cigarrets that come in a black pack, with a skull and a cross bone on the front,


Already been done. They were pretty popular at one point, quite a bit stronger than Malbro reds for that buzzing behind the eyes effect.
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PostPosted: 13:23 - 09 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
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You could have cigarettes that come in a black pack, with a skull and a cross bone on the front,


Already been done. They were pretty popular at one point, quite a bit stronger than Malbro reds for that buzzing behind the eyes effect.


Death - I used to smoke them back in the day, a specialist tobacco shop in Nottingham stocked them.

To be fair Dennis Leary is an American so the chances of him having come across them were very low.
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PostPosted: 14:18 - 09 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kal wrote:

Relentless - 1991 wrote:
Nonsmokers - this is for you and you only. Ready? Nonsmokers die every day. Sleep tight. You see, I know you entertain some type of eternal life fantasy because you do not smoke cigarettes. May I be the first to pop that little fucking bubble of yours? . . . And you know what doctors say? "Shit, if only you smoked - we'd have the technology to help you." It's you people dying from nothing that are screwed. I got all sorts of neat gadgets waiting for me, man: oxygen tent, iron lung.


Not the best example really is it....... Hicks - dead at 32. Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 14:35 - 09 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nkd666 wrote:
Not the best example really is it....... Hicks - dead at 32. Mr. Green


Ah but a life well lived and all that...
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PostPosted: 15:39 - 09 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kal wrote:
Nkd666 wrote:
Not the best example really is it....... Hicks - dead at 32. Mr. Green


Ah but a life well lived and all that...

I dont' think there was ever anything to suggest that it stemmed from smoking though, was it? Pancreatic cancer isn't usually down as smoking related, as far as I know.

God. I still miss that man as much as I do Peelie.
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PostPosted: 15:43 - 09 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

From https://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7568929.stm :-

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I once read that 25% of smokers die early. I was so pleased. As a smoker myself, this logically means that I have a 75% chance of living longer. Fag anyone?

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PostPosted: 18:54 - 09 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

With the pictures being on the pack didnt really bother me?
in fact I remember when they started to appear on the packs - I was hoping for a different picture when I brought a new packet Confused
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