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FreshAL
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PostPosted: 15:00 - 09 Apr 2009    Post subject: Our society is indeed broken - at the top, not the bottom Reply with quote
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Remember Ian Tomlinson, strolling towards death in his Millwall shirt. Perhaps he believed a Home Secretary who pledged to keep people safe on the streets. Maybe he thought himself protected by all agents of law and order. If he did, he was mistaken. And so he ended his last walk home as a martyr of recession Britain and the symbol of trust betrayed.


From the Telegraph: Our society is indeed broken - but at the top, not the bottom

Interesting, because the Telegraph is more traditionally on the side of the establishment.

There's some pretty angry people posting comments on that article, again not what I'd expect from a typical Telegraph reader.

Still, bet they won't be organising any street protests

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PostPosted: 15:28 - 09 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
The Times are picking up on this as well:

The whole barrel was rotten last week at G20 protest


Steven McManus, who says he is a barrister and a former special constable, was in Threadneedle Street on Wednesday:
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“At around 6pm I was outside the Royal Exchange chatting with some officers. I was between the officers and the protesers. The atmosphere was calm and non-confrontational. I shared a few jokes with one officer and was just generally chatting.

“A short while later the line began to move forward. The officers began to shout that we should all move back. I turned towards the crowd and began to move off in that direction. As I was walking away I was struck from behind by a baton and pushed forward towards the steps of Bank Underground.

“I was more than a little shocked at having been hit. The officer who had struck me was one I had been chatting to moments earlier, who knew about my City Police connection, and to whom I had my back turned. I remonstrated with the officer as to why he had hit me – his reply being: “F*** off, move back”.



There are so many reports, photos and videos of apparently unprovoked violence perpetrated by the Police it's getting harder and harder not to view them as Enforcers of the Establishment, not protectors of people's rights.


(I know it's bad form replying to my own thread, but I don't want to start another one for such a related subject)
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PostPosted: 15:36 - 09 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
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PostPosted: 15:36 - 09 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
Wow, even the mainstream printed media is ripping the degenerate shitcunts to pieces. Nice! Thumbs Up Very Happy
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PostPosted: 15:51 - 09 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
Hetzer wrote:
Wow, even the mainstream printed media is ripping the degenerate shitcunts to pieces. Nice! Thumbs Up Very Happy



New G20 video compounds doubts over police account of Ian Tomlinson's death

• Video backs witnesses' claims and contradicts police account
• Police seen as obstructive, their faces obscured, ID hidden



Ok, it's only the Guardian this time who are more into this protesting thing,

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The footage, shot by Nabeela Zahir, a 27-year-old freelance journalist from London, contains three important elements to note:

• Police move quickly to push away those protesters and bystanders who were aiding Tomlinson, including a man on the phone to the ambulance service. The ambulance service wanted to be put in contact with the officer, who declined to take the call.

• The reaction of protesters is important. After the demonstration, police accused them of impeding Tomlinson's treatment by subjecting the officers and medics to a hail of missiles. Although this video does not show the entire incident, when the camera is rolling, no missiles are thrown. In fact, the contrary is true – a man stands with his arms in the air and shouts: "There is someone hurt here. Back the fuck up."

You can hear someone from the crowd saying: "There's someone hurt. Don't throw anything." This indicates something was thrown, but certainly there was no barrage of missiles on film, and nothing reached the police.

• The riot officers have concealed their faces. Pause at 56 seconds. There are four officers in shot. Three have their face masks pulled half-way up their faces.


This has momentum and could get interesting if people keep talking about it.
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PostPosted: 18:12 - 09 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
That video is a liar, the police don't lie and they definately didn't lie about Jean Charles de Menezes.
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PostPosted: 22:22 - 09 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I think it is broken at the bottom, too.

Many people "at the bottom" have no idea that THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE for teaching their offspring to differentiate right from wrong; let alone why, when or whether it is meritorious to make an informed decision for oneself as to which is which.
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PostPosted: 22:28 - 09 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
hellkat wrote:
No.
I think it is broken at the bottom, too.

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Maybe it’s better that way. Wink
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hellkat wrote:
Many people "at the bottom" have no idea that THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE for teaching their offspring to differentiate right from wrong; let alone why, when or whether it is meritorious to make an informed decision for oneself as to which is which.


I think you'll find that the job of TV, gutter tabloids and slebmags.
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