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PostPosted: 11:04 - 06 Mar 2009    Post subject: One way to avoid ANPR Reply with quote

Hi

https://www.automotto.org/entry/ukrainian-drivers-turn-the-law-upside-down/

Not sure whether this could be even regarded as illegal in the UK.

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PostPosted: 11:05 - 06 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

We had on the BCF somebody who did this about a year ago after about a month he was given a tug and told to put it back the correct way.
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PostPosted: 13:15 - 06 Mar 2009    Post subject: Re: One way to avoid ANPR Reply with quote

Suspect you'd be slapped by the Police using the The Road Vehicles (Display of Registration Marks) Regulations 2001

Which includes diagrams in the Schedules and the phrase "in such a position that in normal daylight the characters of the registration mark are easily distinguishable from every part of a relevant area" is repeated throughout the regulations
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PostPosted: 18:09 - 06 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Number Plates must be easy to read and meet the British Standard


Says that on the DVLA website. So yeah, even though there is no law specifically saying it cant be upside down, they would be able to cause your grief using other regulations if they so desired. Smile
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PostPosted: 10:30 - 07 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

ANPR is only for, tax / MOT and insurence.. So as long as your not a Di7k and have all the above theres no need Confused
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PostPosted: 20:15 - 31 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought that anpr only capture you from the front not the rear. am i wrong?
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PostPosted: 20:38 - 31 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

what about polishing your plates to a high shine?? like no illegal tampers, just some good old fashioned elbow grease and plastic wax?
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PostPosted: 20:45 - 31 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

ProvectusIncurro wrote:
what about polishing your plates to a high shine?? like no illegal tampers, just some good old fashioned elbow grease and plastic wax?



Not allowed, considered a modification wit the intent to commit a crime,(avoidance of speeding fines) for example.

Pretty much the same as spraying the plate with certain hair sprays
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PostPosted: 10:30 - 01 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Retro-Man wrote:
ProvectusIncurro wrote:
what about polishing your plates to a high shine?? like no illegal tampers, just some good old fashioned elbow grease and plastic wax?



Not allowed, considered a modification wit the intent to commit a crime,(avoidance of speeding fines) for example.

Pretty much the same as spraying the plate with certain hair sprays


So if its too dirty its illegal, and if its too clean it illegal, talk about a rock and a hard place!

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PostPosted: 00:10 - 11 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

riichy wrote:
ANPR is only for, tax / MOT and insurence.. So as long as your not a Di7k and have all the above theres no need Confused


anpr cover's everything which the police may be of intrest. stolen,tax,insurance and mot also if it has a police marker on the registration i.e been pulled a lot by the local fuzz for being a nuisance (your common boy racer).
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PostPosted: 09:18 - 12 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

ProvectusIncurro wrote:
what about polishing your plates to a high shine?? like no illegal tampers, just some good old fashioned elbow grease and plastic wax?


Not being funny, but how is that going to work.....

Would totally fail on any camera that does not rely on a flash.
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PostPosted: 14:50 - 12 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

lnewland wrote:
I thought that anpr only capture you from the front not the rear. am i wrong?


Yes. It will catch you front or rear, depending on which way it is pointed, I think you are confusing it with the average speed cameras which are forward facing.
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PostPosted: 09:05 - 13 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

what about the fixed ones on the side of the road.
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PostPosted: 12:24 - 13 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wasn't aware there was any fixed APNR emplacements,* thought they were currently all mounted to Police vehicles.



* The exception being the cameras reading plates for congestion zone charging, but they belong to Greater London Council.
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PostPosted: 10:55 - 19 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

iooi wrote:
ProvectusIncurro wrote:
what about polishing your plates to a high shine?? like no illegal tampers, just some good old fashioned elbow grease and plastic wax?


Not being funny, but how is that going to work.....

Would totally fail on any camera that does not rely on a flash.


Could change your plate lights to a HID kit and make it excessively bright...?

IDK was just a random thought...
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PostPosted: 22:26 - 19 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

ProvectusIncurro wrote:


Could change your plate lights to a HID kit and make it excessively bright...?

IDK was just a random thought...


IIRC If you were to change the bulb to an infrared one the plate would become unclear to any digital camera, or even better if you wired an infrared bulb in parrallel with the standard light it would be completly legal to the naked eye even at night, whereas doing a straight swap of bulb means the plate wouldn't be lit at night.

c_dug

Sorry, ive just realised how unclear that sentence comes across, hopefully it makes some sence.
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PostPosted: 22:56 - 19 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

c_dug wrote:

IIRC If you were to change the bulb to an infrared one the plate would become unclear to any digital camera, or even better if you wired an infrared bulb in parrallel with the standard light it would be completly legal to the naked eye even at night, whereas doing a straight swap of bulb means the plate wouldn't be lit at night.

c_dug

Sorry, ive just realised how unclear that sentence comes across, hopefully it makes some sence.


It makes sense, to me anyway... sounds like a plan... and virtually undetectable.. untill the police wonder why they can read your plate, but their cameras cant...
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PostPosted: 20:01 - 20 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

And that is the point in wiring them in parrallel, because unless they inspect it all very closely they're not going to see anything Thumbs Up

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PostPosted: 06:58 - 21 Apr 2009    Post subject: Re: One way to avoid ANPR Reply with quote

Kal wrote:
Suspect you'd be slapped by the Police using the The Road Vehicles (Display of Registration Marks) Regulations 2001

Which includes diagrams in the Schedules and the phrase "in such a position that in normal daylight the characters of the registration mark are easily distinguishable from every part of a relevant area" is repeated throughout the regulations


"in such a position that in normal daylight the characters of the registration mark are easily distinguishable from every part of a relevant area"<<< upside down will still meet all this criteria!
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PostPosted: 08:34 - 21 Apr 2009    Post subject: Re: One way to avoid ANPR Reply with quote

Naggedalot wrote:
"in such a position that in normal daylight the characters of the registration mark are easily distinguishable from every part of a relevant area"<<< upside down will still meet all this criteria!


If it is any effort to read, which for a lot of people it would be, then it will fail this.
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PostPosted: 09:07 - 21 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

i dont see the point.

if they cant read your plate they'll just pull you away and make your life difficult with 'checks' and probably on the spot fines if your can's loud or whatever.

also it can be construde as 'obstructing the pursuit of justice' and you'd just be carted off.

remember even those sprays that make it impossible for cameras to read the plate are illegal. im sure other methods to obscure your plate will fall into the same category..

this all said, keeping in the spirit of the thread Wink there is an american company that can supply a plastic/glass case for your plate. looks normal most of the time but at the flick of a switch sending a current through it it turns black. doubt the police could do much about that as you're not blocking your plate in anyway (until you want to Smile)
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PostPosted: 15:20 - 23 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

c_dug wrote:
IIRC If you were to change the bulb to an infrared one the plate would become unclear to any digital camera,


I can't find it now, but I found a site where someone who maintains these cameras dismissed the whole IR idea. He said that the cameras don't have IR capabilties as there is no need, the flash does the work.

So, I wouldn't bank on it working, if I were you. Smile
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PostPosted: 22:36 - 10 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

AA1819AX, I got it pretty easy, but yeah it'll be nice and illegal in the UK Smile
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PostPosted: 10:22 - 31 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr Hammers wrote:
c_dug wrote:
IIRC If you were to change the bulb to an infrared one the plate would become unclear to any digital camera,


I can't find it now, but I found a site where someone who maintains these cameras dismissed the whole IR idea. He said that the cameras don't have IR capabilties as there is no need, the flash does the work.

So, I wouldn't bank on it working, if I were you. Smile



erm I know im only new here, but a camera that doesnt see IR has had to have had a filter added over the lens, would the police have added IR filters to there cameras?? who knows, its us who re paying for the cameras to catch us not the police.
in 2014 a police force started to install inferred cam's to catch speeders without the speeder even knowing about it. So an IR light would be ideal to obscure your plate if the normal cameras dont have a filter. Hypothetically of course.
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PostPosted: 10:26 - 31 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

After a 6 year hiatus, I think it's safe to say that this debate may have died.
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