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PostPosted: 22:12 - 16 Apr 2009    Post subject: Fvck! Just been pulled :( Reply with quote

Was coming from Tesco in the car, when a got the blue flashing lights behind.

He come to the car and said, "How fast were you going there sir?"
I said 30 and he said, "not when you pulled out from that roundabout, you broke hard when you saw me! I reckon you were doing past 60 due to how hard you had to brake"

I did brake hard cos I was originally doing 40. But no were near 60!

Once I got in the patrol car he said "Been drinking son? Just I can smell alcohol". From then on I thought, shit he's got it in for me here. So I told I hadn't and you can do a breath test if you would like, because I am telling the truth. He replied "must be in the air then". CUNT!

Basically it ended after all the basic checks and him thinking I was doing past 60; but he only give me a section 59. So I couldn't of hoped for any better really. He said next time I get pulled he'll take the car off me. Typical eh Rolling Eyes

Bollocks, will be more alert next time Neutral

Thing is, I could have just shot down a side street and parked up and he wouldn't have noticed. Just it took him ages to turn round and catch up with me. Rolling Eyes Why wasn't I thinking Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: 22:24 - 16 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bollocks all he could have done. He can't do you for thinking you're breaking the speed limit. He would have had to follow you, get you in a speed trap etc.
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PostPosted: 22:28 - 16 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I got in the car I made it clear that I really wasn't a yob or boy racer etc; hoping he would just give me a verbal warning.

I orginally thought he was gonna pull me because of my headlights (I think they might be out of alignment cos people keep flashing me) but its just been in for its MOT so can't be.

I'm gutted Sad

Last chance really isn't it.
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PostPosted: 22:29 - 16 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

There just pathetic.
They need to do this because then it looks like they are doing something productive.

Nothing better to do !
I hate kind of police that try and make you feel stupid " must be in the air then "
They dont relise there nothing better than anybody else.
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PostPosted: 22:31 - 16 Apr 2009    Post subject: Re: Fvck! Just been pulled :( Reply with quote

cal91 wrote:
Was coming from Tesco in the car, when a got the blue flashing lights behind.

He come to the car and said, "How fast were you going there sir?"
I said 30 and he said, "not when you pulled out from that roundabout, you broke hard when you saw me! I reckon you were doing past 60 due to how hard you had to brake"

I did brake hard cos I was originally doing 40. But no were near 60!

Once I got in the patrol car he said "Been drinking son? Just I can smell alcohol". From then on I thought, shit he's got it in for me here. So I told I hadn't and you can do a breath test if you would like, because I am telling the truth. He replied "must be in the air then". CUNT!

Basically it ended after all the basic checks and him thinking I was doing past 60; but he only give me a section 59. So I couldn't of hoped for any better really. He said next time I get pulled he'll take the car off me. Typical eh Rolling Eyes

Bollocks, will be more alert next time Neutral

Thing is, I could have just shot down a side street and parked up and he wouldn't have noticed. Just it took him ages to turn round and catch up with me. Rolling Eyes Why wasn't I thinking Evil or Very Mad


What's that Section-59 then? Is that one of those things intended for something entirely different and the pig perverting it for something it was never meant for? THAT should be a prosecutable offence. If I recall correctly a Section-59 is something to do with creating a nuisance (eg, revving a moped past houses continually at 3am in the morning)? Not meant in any way shape or form for simple and alleged speeding offences.

I may be wrong, but the pigs pull that shit all the time, and it should be an offence.
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PostPosted: 22:32 - 16 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

You should have challenged him instead of taking it like a bitch.

You should have asked him at what point did he get speed calibrators lasered into his eyes such that he was able to judge the exact speed you were going.

It might have seemed the easier, quicker option to just accept it, but thats on your record now and if some other jumped up cock sucker in a uniform decides he wants to ruin someones day for the hell of it then you may well get the car seized off you.

You should have stood your ground, taken a trip down the station if necessary, because although it's wasting both your time you would probably have walked away scot free.

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PostPosted: 22:37 - 16 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh yeah, I would of been on that cnut like a fuckin rash...

I relish little encounters like that Mr. Green Middle Finger
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PostPosted: 22:38 - 16 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, this really is a "catch all"....


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Section 59
Vehicles used in manner causing alarm, distress or annoyance

(1) Where a constable in uniform has reasonable grounds for believing that a motor vehicle is being used on any occasion in a manner which-

(a) contravenes section 3 or 34 of the Road Traffic Act 1988 (c. 52) (careless and inconsiderate driving and prohibition of off-road driving), and
(b) is causing, or is likely to cause, alarm, distress or annoyance to members of the public,
he shall have the powers set out in subsection (3).

(2) A constable in uniform shall also have the powers set out in subsection (3) where he has reasonable grounds for believing that a motor vehicle has been used on any occasion in a manner falling within subsection (1).

(3) Those powers are-

(a) power, if the motor vehicle is moving, to order the person driving it to stop the vehicle;
(b) power to seize and remove the motor vehicle;
(c) power, for the purposes of exercising a power falling within paragraph (a) or (b), to enter any premises on which he has reasonable grounds for believing the motor vehicle to be;
(d) power to use reasonable force, if necessary, in the exercise of any power conferred by any of paragraphs to (a) to (c).
(4) A constable shall not seize a motor vehicle in the exercise of the powers conferred on him by this section unless-

(a) he has warned the person appearing to him to be the person whose use falls within subsection (1) that he will seize it, if that use continues or is repeated; and
(b) it appears to him that the use has continued or been repeated after the the warning.
(5) Subsection (4) does not require a warning to be given by a constable on any occasion on which he would otherwise have the power to seize a motor vehicle under this section if-

(a) the circumstances make it impracticable for him to give the warning;
(b) the constable has already on that occasion given a warning under that subsection in respect of any use of that motor vehicle or of another motor vehicle by that person or any other person;
(c) the constable has reasonable grounds for believing that such a warning has been given on that occasion otherwise than by him; or
(d) the constable has reasonable grounds for believing that the person whose use of that motor vehicle on that occasion would justify the seizure is a person to whom a warning under that subsection has been given (whether or not by that constable or in respect the same vehicle or the same or a similar use) on a previous occasion in the previous twelve months.
(6) A person who fails to comply with an order under subsection (3)(a) is guilty of an offence and shall be liable, on summary conviction, to a fine not exceeding level 3 on the standard scale.

(7) Subsection (3)(c) does not authorise entry into a private dwelling house.

(8) The powers conferred on a constable by this section shall be exercisable only at a time when regulations under section 60 are in force.
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PostPosted: 22:40 - 16 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

So the officer saw you braking hard from a speed greater than you should have been doing. stopped you, made sure you weren't a drunken idiot then just gave you a little warning to focus your mind on driving with a little more care.
Seems ok to me. the only issue i have, that we didn't get when we were being dicks, is that he has to give you a sct 59. but you can thank all those mouthy I know my rights you scum brigade for that.
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PostPosted: 22:43 - 16 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really didn't want to sound like a cocky shit cos coppers would have done me for anything.

On the back it says a section 59 is for Careless and inconsiderate driving or being a nuisance to the public on road or off-road.

I really didn't want to start being cock, I just took it up the arse.
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PostPosted: 22:48 - 16 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

cal91 wrote:
I really didn't want to sound like a cocky shit cos coppers would have done me for anything.

On the back it says a section 59 is for Careless and inconsiderate driving or being a nuisance to the public on road or off-road.

I really didn't want to start being cock, I just took it up the arse.


More fool you then. It's because of attitudes like yours that these sub-human filth think they can pull this kind of flagrantly abusive shit.
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PostPosted: 22:50 - 16 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

The thing about section 59 is, its based on the police officer's opinion, there is no exact measure involved.

This makes it incredibly draconian and open to abuse. I know of one person who's had a car impounded. The thing is, there seems to be no redress at all, you basically get one on the attending police officers say so and thats you.

Just another example of very poor law making. But hey! it got through because a shower of middle class toss pots were being 'bothered' by young nuisance drivers... Apparently... A great example of a knee jerk law that seems to be in place only to discriminate against young folk.

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PostPosted: 22:52 - 16 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

is it me (i will admit i may be wrong here) to avoid one of these OP should have parked it is a garage? (if he had one)
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PostPosted: 22:53 - 16 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

pa_broon74 wrote:
The thing about section 59 is, its based on the police officer's opinion, there is no exact measure involved.

This makes it incredibly draconian and open to abuse. I know of one person who's had a car impounded. The thing is, there seems to be no redress at all, you basically get one on the attending police officers say so and thats you.

Just another example of very poor law making. But hey! it got through because a shower of middle class toss pots were being 'bothered' by young nuisance drivers... Apparently... A great example of a knee jerk law that seems to be in place only to discriminate against young folk.

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And there it is, yet another indicator (and proof) that we're living in a police-state...the pigs with the power of judge, jury and executioner. Where's the right to a defence against a Sec-59? Oh, there isn't one. Police-state, nazi toilet.
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PostPosted: 22:55 - 16 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, sometimes it is easier just to nod and get on your way.
Of course, being a copper, he has super human skills and KNOWS at all times what you were doing, why you were doing it and how you should be doing it.
Don't listen to the likes of crudd, I mean skudd. Hes ex- filth and doesn't have a clue. I suspect that he is still immune from those kind of 'offenses' what with his little mates being out there.

Section 59 = ' I didn't like the look of him, pulled him, found nothing wrong so justified my actions by giving him a random ticket'

You coppers, and ex-coppers disgust me.
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PostPosted: 22:58 - 16 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Section 59 means fuck all unless you get another one within 6 months.
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PostPosted: 22:59 - 16 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hetzer wrote:
cal91 wrote:
I really didn't want to sound like a cocky shit cos coppers would have done me for anything.

On the back it says a section 59 is for Careless and inconsiderate driving or being a nuisance to the public on road or off-road.

I really didn't want to start being cock, I just took it up the arse.


More fool you then. It's because of attitudes like yours that these sub-human filth think they can pull this kind of flagrantly abusive shit.


I know. The thing is, I saw him start to turn round to chase after me. The thought of crossing into the nearest street crossed my mind. He took ages to catch up too, so it would have easily been done. But I didn't cos I would be able to explain why I was there if he caught me lol.

I am gonna be so paranoid now. I pissing hate police, they all seem to be right cvnts.
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PostPosted: 22:59 - 16 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

And by the way. My wifes mother is ex- policeforce and she has told me ALL ABOUT what you degenerate, lawbreaking scumbags get up to. Middle Finger
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PostPosted: 23:05 - 16 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

pablouk wrote:
And by the way. My wifes mother is ex- policeforce and she has told me ALL ABOUT what you degenerate, lawbreaking scumbags get up to. Middle Finger


Which part of doing 35-40 in a 30 zone (behind other cars) become life threatening.

Get your finger out of your arse. I bet you have never broken the law Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: 23:07 - 16 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

No you plum, I was talking about the coppers, not you!!
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PostPosted: 23:09 - 16 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pablo's just been telling me some of the stuff he heard from his MIL...pigs putting a certain internal police newspaper on top of the dashboard of their private car, so they can park wherever the fuck they like without fear of a ticket.

Escorting a person in their private car, pig car in front to clear the way so the driver of the private car (a new one) could "see what it can do".

Loads more general taking-the-piss abuse of power they used to love bragging about.
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PostPosted: 23:11 - 16 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

pablouk wrote:

Don't listen to the likes of crudd, I mean skudd. Hes ex- filth and doesn't have a clue. I suspect that he is still immune from those kind of 'offenses' what with his little mates being out there.
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Two things or maybe three.

Ist, If you knew why I use Skudd as a name your little try at an insult is less than the joke I have at my own expense.

2nd, I'm not ex police and the clues I have got are because I too have been a prat on a bike/ car, but have taken the telling off on the chin.

3rd I do have mates who on on the force, I also have mates who are JPs and on the local bench, I even have friends and family in the Masons, ( was at a lovely meal last week at one of the lodges in fact) what has that got to do with the price of fish?


The problem is that police now feel the need to formalise things due to the scrutiny they are under so things like sct59 are issued rather than saying you drove like a prat and don't do it again.

As the OP says he was driving at 40 in a 30.
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PostPosted: 23:11 - 16 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

pablouk wrote:
No you plum, I was talking about the coppers, not you!!


Oh okay. In that case sorry Very Happy Praying
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PostPosted: 23:14 - 16 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

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As the OP says he was driving at 40 in a 30.


Which would have ended up with three points and a £60 fine... if it could be proved.

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PostPosted: 23:14 - 16 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here the anti-police brigade are again Rolling Eyes .

Of course mechanics never lie when working on peoples vehicles, chefs never lie when they say their food is always fresh, white collar workers never lie to their customers, oh and of course IT tech's never lie to get a bit more money.

People lie in their jobs get over it, if you aren't doing anything stupid then you won't get picked from the bunch.

What if cal HAD been drinking and ran over one of your family members? Then all of you would say "Stupid de-generate scum, why don't they catch real criminals like drink drivers rather than issue speed tickets". Well believe it or not a good percentage of random stops end up with people being arrested for DUI's so think before you answer.

People that are against a whole organization because of a few experiences with only a few of the people that work for it are very naive.
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