Cornering technique

[c_dug]

Now that we have a bit better weather ive been pushing myself a bit more, ive gotten the strips on my tyres down to a little less than a centimeter, the problem is that when i get to a certain amount of lean the bike feels like its about to drop, i dont think im going too slow and its certainly not because im leant too far, any ideas or tips?

I dont expect to be getting my knee down (only got textiles so the result would be a little messy) but it would be nice to be able to get a decent angle without feeling like im about to say hello to the tarmac!

c_dug
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[Blue_SV650S]

Please get someone to take some roadside pictures - or better still video - of you its the only way to analyse how you are ACTUALLY riding ...

What tyres do you run BTW and how fecked are they?
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[c_dug]

I think tyres could be an issue they're both bridgestone, the front is a BT45, the rear is a battleaxe something or other, the rear is pretty square though from alot of motorway miles.
The thing is it has always felt like its going to drop, even before it was square.

Ill try and get some pictures or film taken.

c_dug
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[Charlie]

Just ride

Never really properly tried at bettering my cornering, use to have banter with a couple of mates on chicken strips but that is about it. I was quite surprised when my peg touched down for the first (and only so far) time.

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[Peter3hg]

Make sure you are moving about on the seat. I use to always get that feeling that I was about to drop it when cornering it, but after starting to move my weight around, I can carry the same speed and feel completely safe and smooth. I'm not talking about hanging off like a monkey, just slide your arse to the edge of the seat.
Also make sure you are looking at the place where you want to go (not at the kerb) and keep constant throttle through the bend.

[Ichy]

I ride an 80's cruiser and have no idea what tyres are fitted. Despite this my chicken strips are down to the last couple of millimeters of the tyre. Just ride. The 'secret' is in confidence. My bike might wallow and bounce through the corner but I know it ain't going anywhere on a dry road. The biggest limitation on most bikes is the rider.
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[kawakid]

Get your positioning correct on the bend and you don't have to lean as much.

ie right over to the left on a right hander.

Just by the central division on a left hander.


That way you see more of the road and lean angles can be reduced.
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[colin1]

Try throwing your shoulder into the lean, in the way you would do if you are running and change direction.

Its a lot easier to lean the bike, if you are leaning to one side of it.

Practising on a quiet roundabout helps too.
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[Itchy]

BT45s are a great tyre for cornering on , on my NTV they would happily do Snake pass at 85-90 , they were less happy at over 100 though as on the A675 you'd feel them squirm horribly.
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[c_dug]

The back definetly isnt a BT45, ive just popped outside to check and its an "ArrowMax GT501" never even heard of it Its a bridgestone tyre though, my mistake on the battlaxe.

I guess that could be the issue, everybody has recommended i get the BT45's apperently its the best tyre for the bike, My dad said go for BT020's i think that would probably be overkill though, ill stick with the 45's since thats what most people say.

Ill get some footage of me on a roundabout or something and get it posted

c_dug
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[c_dug]

Its probably also worth noting i feel more confident on left handers, although the strips on my tyres suggest the opposite, also fast corners feel very stable

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[Itchy]

[Paulington]

Road on my daily commute with horrific adverse camber, feels like the bike just wants to tip over.

The secret is indeed confidence, my RS50 runs on a MT75 on the front with a Continental ContiCity on the back, piece of crap. But I can get the knees down without a problem.

Just got to believe the bike will stick, of course, getting the technique right will help first. A square tire won't help much either.
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[c_dug]

Not managed to get any pics or film yet however im pretty sure ive got it sorted, although i feel like a bit of a pleb hanging off, but im definetly getting more lean, down to the last 2-3mm of strip on the R/H side, the left is still a little on the chubby side, but then theres not that many decent left handers around here whereas there are tons of roundabouts.

Pretty sure i could get my knee down from where i am given the right gear, dont feel much like ripping my textiles

So thanks BCF, ill post a pic or two if i manage to get any

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[kawashima]

"Put your chin on the road surface when cornering" worked for me.
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[krebsy]

Taking the bike for a blat at the weekend (With Goat-Boy in tow) following the MOT and I kept trying a variety of differing techniques to get the bike to turn better. conciously countersteering tipped the bike in nicely but the front did feel like it was trying to run wide a lot. "head-butting" the mirror and dipping the elbow felt much more accurate and seemed to generate better lean angles.

When I started hanging off more by shifting my arse about though, the bike felt like it was more upright but was flicking into the corner like it was on rails. The front lost all the wishy-washy feeling and it seemed much better.

So, Mix it up and do'nt worry about the strips . I was cornering faster and tighter with the bike more upright..

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[Smooth]

As above, it seems that a variety of techniques are needed depending on the corner.

I find that keeping loose, hanging off a bit and flicking the bike quickly into a corner with a counter-steer rather than lazily leaning it over seems to produce the best results and most secure feeling. Rolling-on the throttle as I corner helps too.

I've not had the pegs down since I had my monkey bike though!
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[Kal]

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[c_dug]

*Rubs cheek*

Yup i realise its not about how leant i am but it is fun and im quicker through the bends than my mates who ride so im not too worried about that one for the time being, although it will need working on at some point i dont deny that, it's just a good confidence booster to know that if i approach a corner too quick i have the ability to lean a bit further and fingers crossed make it through the bend.

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