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UnknownStuntm...
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PostPosted: 10:29 - 27 Apr 2009    Post subject: South Coast Wheelies? Reply with quote

Anyone been? I'm thinking about going, just to learn more about bike control really. I dare not try it on my bike, don't want to cock it up!

www.southcoastwheelies.co.uk (not linked for fear of spam tagging!)

(EDIT: clever forum software linked it for me anyway. D'oh!)
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PostPosted: 11:33 - 27 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, that's pretty near to me. Seems kind of expensive, but as you say, no chance of trashing your own bike.

Although I wouldn't have thought you'd be that likely to trash your bike learning to wheelie? I might be wrong.
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PostPosted: 11:59 - 27 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

thinking of doing on of these. This place you can take part with a A2 licence. witch is good Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 12:08 - 27 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like the same kind of idea as Jimmy Fireblade's school right down to the same cut out switch rig on the tail. That lot are cheaper and suggest smaller group sizes too, nice find imho Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 07:12 - 01 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Booked now, with a couple mates. Will report back after the event next month if I still have at least a partial use of my fingers. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 08:16 - 01 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

That sounds great! Some folk I know have just been up to Lincoln for a wheelie school day and when I googled it looked likely to be Jimmyfireblades (?) Their prices are similar, so seems a fair price.

Enjoy and let us know how you get on and if you would recommend it, as very close to me and I'd love to go if they're good! Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 08:31 - 01 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm tempted, but need to reign in my expenses at the moment. It's got a bit out of control.
£175 learning to wheelie would go down as one of those 'hmmm did you really need to spend that' expenses.

It does look fun though.......
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PostPosted: 08:40 - 01 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm, same for me Skluff and wheelie school is below track day on list of 'expenses to be incurred', but still good to know I don't have to add travelling costs on top Laughing
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PostPosted: 08:45 - 01 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

See, my reasoning for going is split between opposing "look at me I can clutch one up" chest wig wearing nuttiness and "now I know what happens when the front pops up, I can control things better" techy nerdy safety freak....
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PostPosted: 08:55 - 01 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

UnknownStuntman wrote:
"now I know what happens when the front pops up, I can control things better" techy nerdy safety freak....


That would be my reason, mainly for when I upgrade the bike in the future.

UnknownStuntman wrote:
"look at me I can clutch one up" chest wig wearing nuttiness


Nooooooo! I don't want a hairy chest! Shocked
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PostPosted: 10:27 - 01 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

When are you all going? I might come down and watch. Not like it's far from me (and it's practically in Tonka's back garden). Do they allow spectators?
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PostPosted: 11:07 - 01 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

pfft - you think I'm going to advertise the date of my futile 'snatch, hup, panic, wobble, poop, gravelrash' episode? Not a chance my old bean! Smile
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PostPosted: 11:15 - 01 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ahh. Going into it with a positive mindset I see Wink

Go on. I'll bring some flapjack or something.
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PostPosted: 11:22 - 01 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Theres one near me but its a bit pricey. mentioned it at work but got shot down in flames as some kind of sad act.

Its not about learning to do it and going all over 'up on one' for me but learning a bit of control and getting some more confidence.

That way when the busa picks up on the power it won't catch me as off guard as the last time it did it Surprised

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Although I wouldn't have thought you'd be that likely to trash your bike learning to wheelie? I might be wrong.


I would have thought it would be very easy to trash a bike learning to wheelie, aside from wear and tear theres a high likelehood that you will make a complete mess of it at some point. Just try typing 'wheelie crash' in youtube and see how many videos come back Laughing
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PostPosted: 13:36 - 01 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

im quite tempted, and a small discount at £150 if you book with someone else

be nice to know how to get the front up safely under control, and lik eothers have said you know what to do if you pop a power wheelie
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PostPosted: 16:58 - 01 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

anyone know of such a place in the midlands area? i'd be quite interested in this
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PostPosted: 17:55 - 01 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Someone explain why you don't just go to a secluded industrial estate like everyone else save the £150?

You won't fall off if you take it slowly.
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PostPosted: 19:14 - 01 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chriss wrote:
Someone explain why you don't just go to a secluded industrial estate like everyone else save the £150?

You won't fall off if you take it slowly.


agreed. self teaching beats the shit out of this wheelie school crap.
you have to fall off at least once, it builds confidence. whereas with these CDI cutoff things, you get a false sense of security, and as soon as your let loose on the road BAM.

im waiting for the day i see someone riding along with one of them Very Happy
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PostPosted: 19:31 - 01 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I had a second disposable bike I'd agree, a lot of people are not going to be willing to take the risk on a shiny expensive machine though (myself included).
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PostPosted: 19:37 - 01 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you think you're going to flip your first wheelie you're deluded though. I can hold a wheelie for a fair way now, and sometimes I struggle to get to the balance point for the fear of flipping it on my DRZ (feels different to my Daytona). Your body won't let you flip it. Start of slow!

If anyone wants to attend a free wheelie school in Elgin, give me a shout!

Edit: I've never come close to crashing a wheelie yet, and I've been done them for two years, and wheelie, probably, every day.
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PostPosted: 19:39 - 01 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm more worried about putting it down than picking it up Smile
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PostPosted: 19:43 - 01 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now that has confused me, when you learn, the front wheel stays straight, as it's not up long enough to stop spinning (same reason your bike doesn't fall over in motion). Hence wheelies go up, not fall to the side too.

Other than that, it's just accelerating gently when it's coming down so it doesn't come smashing down and blowing fork seals.
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PostPosted: 19:45 - 01 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Villers wrote:

I would have thought it would be very easy to trash a bike learning to wheelie, aside from wear and tear theres a high likelehood that you will make a complete mess of it at some point. Just try typing 'wheelie crash' in youtube and see how many videos come back Laughing

Now type in 'motorbike crash' - if you're sensible about wheelies, you won't crash. Just as if you're sensible about riding on the road, you won't crash.
If you're not the 'sensible' type, you've probably already smashed your bike up while riding on the road Smile.

Oh and to the OP... I hope you feel rather embarrassed about your username, now Razz.
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PostPosted: 10:04 - 02 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
I hope you feel rather embarrassed about your username, now Razz.

...Hence the 'Unknown' bit! Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 09:07 - 25 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yesterday I went with three mates and s bloke who I've not met before.
So the day started at 9.30 where we got kitted up and had a brew, with Neil, the instructor. He's a chatty bloke, very easy to get along with despite all of us being quite nervy. He had already unloaded the bikes - two Bandit 600s with cages and many battle scars. Other than the switch to cut the ignition mounted on the back number plate mount, they were standard bikes.

The tuition started with the mantra for the day.1, 2, 3.
1 - Shut the throttle, bang the clutch in and jab the rear brake with your toe
2 - whang the throttle open 1/4 turn
3 - pop the clutch out

No demos, no confusion, no bullshit, that was it. That's all you need to get the wheel in the air.

On these bikes, he said that the best entry rpm was 3k, so we then practised riding along at 3k and jabbing the back brake. The idea is just to dip the front a little. So the first two went off for 5 mins doing that over and over. Looks easy enough, no drama at all. Then it was my go and all seemed fairly simple.

The next stage was to just go for it. The first two went out and I stood with my gob open waiting for someone to crash. But no drama, just the merest of air under the front tyre. Then a little more, then the kiddie I didn't know in the group gave it a proper handful and pretty much launched the bike into a 18" wheelie. Where the switch knocked the ignition off, the bike popped and spluttered and the front came down very heavy. To the sound of mass laughter. He stayed on the bike though....!

So then it was my turn. And the beginning of a small realisation. crack the throttle then bang the clutch out is not something I can actually do! I'm just not programmed to do it. I tried, and tried, and a few times I did it. The wheel came up and I actually did pull a wheelie or seven. But inconsistency was the order of my day.

The day pretty much went on like this, swapping over after about 10 mins to have a break and a rest. I was feeling pretty knackered after the first two wheelie sessions and my clutch muscles were aching to the point I could're really control them a lot. Which obviously was bad.

To be honest I think the day was a little bit of a let down for everyone. I expected to just be able to do it. My mates were saying they expected it to be less physical, and easier to get up to the balance point. (small note here, balance point my arse, you've got to be awesome to get a bike up that far...) And the other Charlie expected to get up to 2nd or 3rd gear. Which he didn't.

I was pretty much the worst of the bunch, and I think that was down to inexperience, I've only been riding for 18 odd months and the others had all been on bikes for years... No excuses, I was a pussy with the throttle and far to conditioned to feed the clutch rather than drop it. But, I have got a picture on my camera of me, on a bike, with at least a sliver of air under the front tyre. So, I guess, I 'could' wheelie now if I wanted to.

But the most important thing I learnt yesterday was that I am definitely not going to try this on my own bike, on the road. There are just too many ways I could bollocks it up, and I'm just too worried about dropping the bike and / or smashing a vertebrae.
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