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PostPosted: 19:41 - 07 May 2009    Post subject: How much do you use the rear brake? - my video confession Reply with quote

Now this has intrigued me for a while as many people say they never use it ... it was only when watching a video of myself from behind did I realise that I was using the rear brake ... and indeed a fair bit!!

Today I purposely pointed a camera rearward (mounted on front indicator) I was actually intrigued to see what it would look like rear-view, but something that really struck me is just how much I DO use the rear brake!! Shocked

So do you fall in the no rear brake school??? ... if you think you do ... like me, do you KNOW you do?!!?!? Wink

Got a vid ... uploading as we speak and will post in due time!! Thumbs Up

EDIT: As promised - the vid!! Smile

Granted its not a very exciting vid, but just pay attention to how much I use the rear brake and the different levels of pressure I am using ... to be honest before I saw that 'follow' vid, I wasn't even aware I really used the rear ... makes me wonder how many people think they don't but they DO .... a bit like counter steering?!!?!?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8ThXGg45cA&fmt=18
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PostPosted: 19:50 - 07 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I mostly use mine just before I come to a stop, easing off the front brake at the same time so that the weight comes off the nose for a smoother ride.
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PostPosted: 19:51 - 07 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've heard loads of bikers not using their rear brake.

I use the rear when the road surface is questionable, slow control, stopping etc.

If I've entered a bend too quickly and I need to brake then I only use the rear as I'd rather that slid than the front.

I do agree with you that alot of people say they don't use the rear.
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PostPosted: 19:51 - 07 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

mtorcycles have a rear brake????
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PostPosted: 19:57 - 07 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vid (and a few extra comments) added to the OP
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PostPosted: 20:04 - 07 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only times I actually use the rear brake is in unfavourble conditions or if I've entered a corner a little too hot I dab on the rear to get a better turn in, pull on the front and you'll just sit upright.

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PostPosted: 20:13 - 07 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I never used to use it at all, but recently I've started to find it more useful - Part of it is down to making fun with the ABS system. Anyone know if it's bad to make it kick in for no reason? - wait, I'll take this to a new thread!
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PostPosted: 20:27 - 07 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use my back brake quite a bit and have done since I first learnt - think it was grabbing a fist full of front at low speed and coming off that made me a happier engine braking and using the back tbh.

May be it's a by product of the type of bike you ride - engine braking on the V-twins?
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PostPosted: 20:32 - 07 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Due to having shocking shit front and rear drum brakes, I make what use I can out of them. Not much tbh.
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PostPosted: 20:47 - 07 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use the rear in traffic or in a bend if I have to. I also use it when I have to brake hard (with the front brake obviously Laughing )
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PostPosted: 20:56 - 07 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

never did untill recently
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PostPosted: 21:08 - 07 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I still tend to over-use the front brake, but since I came off and broke my thumb (which mr hellkat ASSURED me was because I was braking too much with the front) ... once he taught me how to use the back as well, I now try and remember to use it more often.

Too tempting to just grab a handful, though.
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PostPosted: 21:16 - 07 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi, are you sure you're not gilding the lily abit with your statement
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it was only when watching a video of myself from behind did I realise that I was using the rear brake

Cos you locked up the rear on quite a few occasions 1:57 you leave a 3m skid Smile And maybe you were over conscious of the camera, leading to you squeezing the brake too long during quick downshifts.
But yeah i use both brakes, with more rear used in wet conditions, or in town and steep descents. Always surprises me when i hear of people only using the front.


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PostPosted: 21:18 - 07 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Slow speed control / in corner if need be and I always use both when braking for real. I compared using just front, and then front+rear and just using the front didn't feel like the bike was half as stable as using both, it's there for a reason I suppose.
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PostPosted: 21:23 - 07 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

hellkat wrote:

Too tempting to just grab a handful, though.


I'm often tempted but luckily manage to hold back Razz

As for the back brake, i don't use it as much as i should and been trying to remind myself its there, lol. Usually it only gets used when i'm riding along while i'm lying back sunbathing Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: 21:56 - 07 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just use the back brake on some corners depending on how I have took the corner. I also use it when stopping at traffic lights, press on the front brake, then ease the back brake on also, depending on what speed am doing, never give a full fist of the front brake haha Smile

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PostPosted: 21:58 - 07 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Howling Terror wrote:
Hi, are you sure you're not gilding the lily abit with your statement
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it was only when watching a video of myself from behind did I realise that I was using the rear brake

Cos you locked up the rear on quite a few occasions 1:57 you leave a 3m skid Smile And maybe you were over conscious of the camera, leading to you squeezing the brake too long during quick downshifts.


I meant the first time I saw myself in action (a video shot of me from behind - not this vid that is shot from the front (but facing backwards)) it took me by surprise how much I used the rear brake .... didn't really know I was using it at all, let alone to any extent .... I kinda know now, but it still takes me surprise just how much ... its not only when I am intentionally playing with it skidding about these days!! Wink
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PostPosted: 21:58 - 07 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I started riding I used the rear brake 50/50 with the front then I was told not to bother so I stopped. At some point I started doing it 50/50 again although I now only brake for junctions etc. I use engine braking most of the time.
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PostPosted: 21:59 - 07 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always use the rear brake. I find it especially useful when you overcook a corner slightly.

Infact, I rely on it so much I have been thinking about modifying it to accept a front disc of a smaller bike... I heard that Nicky Hayden uses the front disc of a 250cc Moto GP bike for his rear disc? Confused
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PostPosted: 22:02 - 07 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

flip wrote:
When I started riding I used the rear brake 50/50 with the front then I was told not to bother so I stopped. At some point I started doing it 50/50 again although I now only brake for junctions etc. I use engine braking most of the time.


Are we talking about braking 'effort' or 'frequency' here?
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PostPosted: 22:06 - 07 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blue_SV650S wrote:
Are we talking about braking 'effort' or 'frequency' here?


Both I reckon, maybe a little softer on the rear. I like to ride as smoth as I can rather than erractic and fast so I like to slow down nicely rather than nosedive to I halt.


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PostPosted: 22:09 - 07 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

flip wrote:
Blue_SV650S wrote:
Are we talking about braking 'effort' or 'frequency' here?


Sorry, I meant I use both brakes together. Not sure how firm I use it because I've really thought about it.


Still confused!! Very Happy

I think you mean you use BOTH brakes 50% of the time, the other 50% you use just the front? Right?!!? Very Happy
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PostPosted: 22:12 - 07 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

flip wrote:
Both I reckon, maybe a little softer on the rear. I like to ride as smoth as I can rather than erractic and fast so I like to slow down nicely rather than nosedive to I halt.


Changed my asnwer 'cause it didn't make sence. Still not sure I'm making sence. Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: 22:13 - 07 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

flip wrote:
flip wrote:
Both I reckon, maybe a little softer on the rear. I like to ride as smoth as I can rather than erractic and fast so I like to slow down nicely rather than nosedive to I halt.


Changed my asnwer 'cause it didn't make sence. Still not sure I'm making sence. Laughing Laughing


LoL, yeah, think I understand now!! Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 22:16 - 07 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I fell asleep watching TV, just woke up and I'm a bit dazed. Ignore me Laughing
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