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PostPosted: 12:51 - 14 May 2009    Post subject: Flies, Flies and oh...more damn flies! Reply with quote

Went for a ride on my route that I found last time, had a decent ride. Got home and was covered in bloody flies from head to toe! All over my lid, jacket, jeans and even my gloves! There were so many I also found some on the floor in my house which had fallen off me Laughing And to top that I found about 5 that were still alive Shocked I've yet to check my bike Laughing

It's weird because it's not even warm or sunny Confused
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PostPosted: 12:54 - 14 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

They are a pain in the ass, their goo really restricts vision.

Racing on Sunday, I had a bee or a wasp hit my visor at about 58mph. I can only imagine he was less than happy, quite a wallop aswell, took me by surprise.

Clean them all off with Magic Eraser or something. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 12:54 - 14 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sure they were flies? Riding alongside a Dam I would expect midges
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PostPosted: 12:58 - 14 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

kwaker6r wrote:
Sure they were flies? Riding alongside a Dam I would expect midges


Laughing

I went for the short option
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PostPosted: 14:38 - 14 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have hit a butterflies, wasps and plenty of files/midges before... but the worst was a butterfly, that that bloody hurt.

I haven't experienced bad flies yet (this year) because I haven't been out on my bike for a while Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: 14:43 - 14 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

ds55 wrote:
but the worst was a butterfly, that that bloody hurt.


Try a pigeon! - OUCH!
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PostPosted: 14:54 - 14 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have had an owl fly into my leg before, butterfly still hurt more. Right on left nipple through my jacket. Laughing
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PostPosted: 14:58 - 14 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

The worst bit is when a bee or wasp hits one of the "soft" panels on leathers, I have 2 placed on my upper arm facing forwards so when I'm not ducked down behind the screen they seem to aim for them! Shocked
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PostPosted: 16:08 - 14 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hate them too. Especially when one decides to finish its Kamikaze run right in the middle of my visor making me spend half the journey half-focusing on it and the road and giving myself eye strain and a headache. Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: 16:22 - 14 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

St0rmer66 wrote:
The worst bit is when a bee or wasp hits one of the "soft" panels on leathers, I have 2 placed on my upper arm facing forwards so when I'm not ducked down behind the screen they seem to aim for them! Shocked


I've had a bee to the nipple before at about 80. That sucked. Wonder what the kinetic energy of that impact was?
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PostPosted: 16:28 - 14 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paulington wrote:
Racing on Sunday, I had a bee or a wasp hit my visor at about 58mph. I can only imagine he was less than happy, quite a wallop aswell, took me by surprise.


You race?

"About 58mph"
Lol.
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PostPosted: 16:29 - 14 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

SKluff: About 0.8 metric fucktons.

Fuckton: noun (non-SI unit). A fuckton is defined as the pain caused by impacting something that engenders the screaming of profanities while moving at 100mph.

Ergo, at 80mph, you achieved a 0.8 on said scale.

No idea what it'd be in joules.
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PostPosted: 16:32 - 14 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got hit by one of those massive bumble bees(read.. massive! the big bastards) at 60mph on my right collar bone through my jacket, now THAT hurt!
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PostPosted: 16:33 - 14 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

skluff wrote:

I've had a bee to the nipple before at about 80. That sucked. Wonder what the kinetic energy of that impact was?


I was bored....

Kinetic Energy = 0.5 x mass x velocity squared

Mass in KG and Velocity in meters per second

Average bee according to Google weights 100mg

80mph is 35.76 m/s (according to Google, I couldnt be bother to work it out myself)


KE = 0.5 x 0.0001 x (35.76x35.76)

KE of bee hitting nipple at 80mph is 0.0639 Joules

Doesnt sound very much but bet it hurt! Thumbs Up


EDIT: hummm that's wrong, bee wasn't moving at 80mph you were....

Ok so you hit bee with the KE of;

approximately 159847.2 Joules Shocked
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PostPosted: 17:31 - 14 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love it when you hit a bug and the little bastard is facing the same direction you were going.

So they face forward.
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PostPosted: 18:02 - 14 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Old ladies don't splat the same as flies do.
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PostPosted: 18:05 - 14 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

metalforever wrote:
Paulington wrote:
Racing on Sunday, I had a bee or a wasp hit my visor at about 58mph. I can only imagine he was less than happy, quite a wallop aswell, took me by surprise.


You race?

"About 58mph"
Lol.

Yes, karts. Data says I hit 58mph on that section of track, relatively slow section.

@Selkie, you beat me to it! Sad

Let's say the impact was for 0.2s, that's close as makes no difference 800kW.

or 250g of TNT. Thumbs Up

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PostPosted: 09:59 - 15 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Me and the missus did 450 miles on Mon/Tues. Bristol - Snowdonia and back. After every 100 miles I looked like Bugsy Malone. Had to stop and have a brew / clean visor / listen to her whine about her arse. Hot coffee gets the buggers off.

Except on Tuesday morning, if was still cool from the night. No bugs, as it warmed up out they came.

Lesson; if you don't want bugs ride at dawn.
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PostPosted: 10:21 - 15 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Selkie wrote:
skluff wrote:

I've had a bee to the nipple before at about 80. That sucked. Wonder what the kinetic energy of that impact was?


I was bored....

Kinetic Energy = 0.5 x mass x velocity squared

Mass in KG and Velocity in meters per second

Average bee according to Google weights 100mg

80mph is 35.76 m/s (according to Google, I couldnt be bother to work it out myself)


KE = 0.5 x 0.0001 x (35.76x35.76)

KE of bee hitting nipple at 80mph is 0.0639 Joules

Doesnt sound very much but bet it hurt! Thumbs Up


EDIT: hummm that's wrong, bee wasn't moving at 80mph you were....

Ok so you hit bee with the KE of;

approximately 159847.2 Joules Shocked


OK, that is so horribly wrong, it's not true. What direction was the bee travelling in? If you assume 10mph towards the OP then the true closing speed would have been 90mph. Secondly, there is no point in calculating the energy imparted to the bee from the person, as the bee is not a solid object, it's structure and energy would have been massively affected by hitting the person in question. Far more sensible to calculate the energy of the bee hitting the person, so your original maths was they way to go. The other point you have missed is ther area over which the impact takes place. The reason the bee hurts is that the relatively low kinetic energy is applied to a very small area, which is why that hurts so much.

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PostPosted: 11:45 - 15 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

the grim reaper wrote:

OK, that is so horribly wrong, it's not true. What direction was the bee travelling in? If you assume 10mph towards the OP then the true closing speed would have been 90mph. Secondly, there is no point in calculating the energy imparted to the bee from the person, as the bee is not a solid object, it's structure and energy would have been massively affected by hitting the person in question. Far more sensible to calculate the energy of the bee hitting the person, so your original maths was they way to go. The other point you have missed is the area over which the impact takes place. The reason the bee hurts is that the relatively low kinetic energy is applied to a very small area, which is why that hurts so much.

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meh! Rolling Eyes

Having re-read it after a good nights sleep yes it's all wrong, but I was bored and tired and just did a very quick random calculation.

*slaps wrists*

The OP just asked what KE would be. Grim's right in saying that it's the force applied to the small area that hurts. I'm sure it's been worked out before by a bike riding physics teacher, but there's a myriad of calculations and formulae you can use to work it out if you really want to but I think nowhere.elysium summed it up;

"Fuckton: noun (non-SI unit). A fuckton is defined as the pain caused by impacting something that engenders the screaming of profanities while moving at 100mph." Laughing
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PostPosted: 12:06 - 15 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Skudd wrote:
Old ladies don't splat the same as flies do.

Depends on how hard you hit them with a spade, really...
It helps if you aim for one with osteoporosis, too, because their bones won't transfer as much of the immediate shock around the skeletal system anywhere near as well as normal: with enough impact force, their bones will effectively turn to powder.
Skin elasticity's the real problem here, though, because it'll allow for internal displacement of organs and associated mush, and given that older shin is wrinkled from relative loss of elasticity, there's more immediate give. Kinda like deflating a balloon, and then re-inflating it sharply: it'll be easier in the initial stages, but it starts to lose integrity a bit. Ergo, if you hit hard enough, with a large enough object, the skin will rupture, thus causing said old biddy to burst like a rather nasty balloon, thus neatly demonstrating my rather poor earlier example.

Disclaimer: I have never exploded an old lady, nor do I intend to. This was just a layman's attempt to reason through large kinetic forces being applied to OAPs. No old ladies were harmed in the making of this post, or in the upbringing of the poster. Don't try this at home.
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PostPosted: 19:27 - 15 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

15 yr old chav lads do squeel when you hit them.
I have only ever knocked two people down while on a bike so I don't make a habit of it.
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PostPosted: 20:20 - 15 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Flies are fine, just watch out for them damn Volvos!!
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PostPosted: 09:23 - 16 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

anyone here ride with an open face helmet?

i bet that bloody HURTS when you get hit in the face by a fly at like 80mph



first time i ever went on the back of a motorbike a bee(i think) hit me in the neck at 100mph, that ruined the rest of the ride lol.
it felt like a paintball gun at point blank
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