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bale
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PostPosted: 14:32 - 17 May 2009    Post subject: bikes cbr,rs,nsr Reply with quote

hi there would you be able to tell me if a honda cbr will make any power near to a nsr 125 or apprillia rs 125 when tuned up thanks
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PostPosted: 14:47 - 17 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

you missed the Cagiva mito 125 on your list Shocked , isnt a CBR a 4 stroke, therefor no, but ive heard people making 4 stroke 125s fast though Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 14:55 - 17 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

ah right ok then which bike do you sugest from a ts125 r then a nsr 125 or rs 125
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PostPosted: 14:57 - 17 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

bale wrote:
ah right ok then which bike do you sugest from a ts125 r then a nsr 125 or rs 125


well NSR 125 if you wona get around.

Aprilia rs 125 if you wona get there fast and look good. Rolling Eyes

have you seen the yamaha r125?
just since you wanted to know about fast 4 strokes, im sure its up there for the 125s
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PostPosted: 15:00 - 17 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

this has been asked so many times

fast and reliable stock rs125 / nsr125

fastest of teh fast
derestricted rs125/ mito


reilable as possible and cheap to run as anythign yet look okish

cbr125 /r125


2 stroke = guel guzzler and the fastest choice but not always reliable. 4 stroke are just the ultimate reliability + fuel economy ride
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bale
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PostPosted: 15:00 - 17 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

nope never herd of that fella i own a ts125r but needs a rebuild do you think theres a way to get it to 33 bhp
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PostPosted: 15:13 - 17 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

ns125rk90 wrote:
this has been asked so many times

fast and reliable stock rs125 / nsr125

fastest of teh fast
derestricted rs125/ mito


reilable as possible and cheap to run as anythign yet look okish

cbr125 /r125


2 stroke = fuel guzzler and the fastest choice but not always reliable. 4 stroke are just the ultimate reliability + fuel economy ride



pretty much all there Thumbs Up good job
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Welshd1k
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PostPosted: 15:31 - 17 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

bale wrote:
nope never herd of that fella i own a ts125r but needs a rebuild do you think theres a way to get it to 33 bhp



33bhp ???

at the crank or wheel ?




im sure in fully tunned it will give that kind of power but will blow up alot
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PostPosted: 15:43 - 17 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

at the crank but if i know i had the power it wouldn't be flat out all the time as it would have to make me last and it would all be done properly
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PostPosted: 16:10 - 17 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

33bhp should be possible, but would need a pretty good wedge of cash throwing at it! Would affect reliability too.
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PostPosted: 16:12 - 17 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

and why do you want 33bhp. yo cant ride it on 'l' plates ....




and if you want a 125 with 33bhp its lifespan wont be long as it will be tuned like ferk
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PostPosted: 18:25 - 17 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nsr is one of the best 125s except cagiva mito.
Iv actually found my nsr is quicker than the 07 rs because my mate has got one.

But CBR is the slowest with it been a 4 stroke, struggles to get over 75mph and its slow.
Good for cornering, very light, and you can put it into the corners easy.


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PostPosted: 19:02 - 17 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Was that 07 heavily restricted due to emissions testing?
i bet it was, they have all sorts of things on the new RS's to restrict em, needs the cat from exhaust removed, CDI drilling, upjetting, bigger carbs, just to make it sit inside the rules.
Fully derestricted RS if you wanna be a poser!
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PostPosted: 20:14 - 17 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

what you meen by cdi drilling wont this damage it
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PostPosted: 20:15 - 17 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the new RS125s that are restricted via cdi among other things, theres a certain position to drill through that will activate the powervalve side of the electrics to work im told.
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PostPosted: 22:59 - 17 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Firstly when will people learn to use the fucking search bar

And secondly for the amount of money you would throw into an old ts to get it to 33bhp you could do your test and buy a bike that has 3 times that power standard.
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PostPosted: 23:03 - 17 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

well for your info i have done my test but i dont want a bike like that i want a project so i can say yh i did this
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PostPosted: 23:13 - 17 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

tutton wrote:
On the new RS125s that are restricted via cdi among other things, theres a certain position to drill through that will activate the powervalve side of the electrics to work im told.


It has nothing to do with the power valve. The stock ignition has a massive amount of ignition retard from 4750rpm to 6000rpm, with full retard between 5000 and 5750. This causes a massive flat spot, probably there to help the bike get through noise tests.

The cdi unit contains both that ignition map and a decent one. When you chop into the cdi at a particular place you find a bridge on the circuit board. Break this bridge and it pushes it on to using the proper ignition map without the massive ignition retard.

It has no effect outside the 4750 to 6000 rpm range at all.

All the best

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PostPosted: 23:14 - 17 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry your highness read the last bit of my post its what i was told.
not gospel
all the best
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PostPosted: 23:17 - 17 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

ah ok thanks now i get you
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PostPosted: 17:47 - 23 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

CBR 125 modified with DOCH 170 speed 180++
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