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PostPosted: 09:56 - 27 May 2009    Post subject: Horse Riding On The Roads Reply with quote

Hey
Now I dunno if it's just me that gets annoyed by this, but Iv been riding on the road for about 2month or so now and I have seen like 10 Horse's riders on the road. I pass them slowly, and try not to make to much noise as I pass, but most times I do this, the Rider still looks at me as if to say Im doing some thing wrong !!
It annoys me so much, next time I'm gunna put my bike in High RPM past them lol.
Anyone else have a problem same as this ??

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PostPosted: 09:58 - 27 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

i always pull the clutch in as i pass, and quite often get a thank you wave.

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It annoys me so much, next time I'm gunna put my bike in High RPM past them


i wouldn't do this, hooves can go anywhere- particularly when spooked Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 10:09 - 27 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tend to slap it in 5th at 20mph or so and cruise on by, always had a wave, but does annoy the hell out of me when they shit everywhere, it's like leaning on ice.... Dog owners are made to clear it up... and their shit isn't even dangerous...
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PostPosted: 10:14 - 27 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Clutch in, slow right down, usually to about 10mph or less and pretty much cruise past on biting point. I've always had a courteous wave or a nod back. Guess it's only fair since I've jumped off a wheelie bin when drunk trying to do a swanton bomb and felt pretty messed up after that. Imagine getting bolted off a horse that's a lot taller and landing on your waist/hip.

Some of my quicker mates lack the observational skills to recognise there's a horse and quite often i'm left with the wrath of a pissed off horse rider and their guide! Laughing Mates from uni flew past one at 80+ on some B roads because they were unfamiliar with it!
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PostPosted: 10:14 - 27 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi, sometimes you can come across the snooty types, Sod 'em and just pass wide and steady or clutch in if you can.
Here's what i got upto
https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=166832&

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PostPosted: 10:24 - 27 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

1) Make sure they know you are approaching - if it's windy they might not hear you.
Slow right down and consider a little throttle blip with clutch in or even a brief toot of horn when still far enough away not to spook.

2) Try to establish eye contact with rider - and horse.

3) Maximise the distance between you and it, even if oncoming traffic has to slow or stop. They can leap sideways in an instant and this can be a precursor to lashing out with rear hoof.
At least a car length is advisable.

4) When passing keep revs absolute minimum and be prepared to stop altogether while they get to a place further on with wide verge or gate they can stop in.

5) Some horses are used to traffic and won't flinch, others are terrible especially with anything unusual. They are strange and flighty creatures who might have no fear of a 30 ton truck then leap sideways into you if there's a little plastic bag stuck in the hedge!

6) A little nod or wave after passing is a nice touch even if things have not gone so well - from both sides...
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PostPosted: 11:53 - 27 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Horses should stay in fields where they belong.

Most of the problem is that the riders seem to think they have a God given right to take up all the road. It makes my blood boil.

theres one snoot cow round here who strikes out with her whip at cars and bikes if she doesnt like the way they pass. she would only do it once to me. Twisted Evil

I pass slow and then give it some when I'm far enough away for the spooked horse not to hit me. Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: 12:06 - 27 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Normally ride through the new forest which is full of horse back riders.
I slow down but with the loudness of my pipe I still get some funny looks.
Other week a horse got spooked by a trailer and started to run along side it, as I was behind I could see a lamp post - horse sopts and bucked into the road. Any closer I would of been hooved off my bike.
So, dont open the bike up lol
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PostPosted: 12:08 - 27 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Horses were on the roads long before cars and bikes were invented, so I'm puzzled by those who seem to think they have no right to be there.

If you don't like seeing them, move to the city - I've only seen a couple of groups in the last 5 years.

Have a bit of courtesy (as indeed, most of us seem to be doing) and treat them with respect as you pass - for a start, it's not the horse's fault it's on the road, it's that of the posh dribbler rider.
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PostPosted: 12:32 - 27 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Louise wrote:
Normally ride through the new forest which is full of horse back riders.
I slow down but with the loudness of my pipe I still get some funny looks.
Other week a horse got spooked by a trailer and started to run along side it, as I was behind I could see a lamp post - horse sopts and bucked into the road. Any closer I would of been hooved off my bike.
So, dont open the bike up lol
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I live in the New Forest and I'd agree, the only time I've spooked a horse was when a dark brown New Forest pony was standing under an overhanging tree on a sunny day and I couldn't see the bugger until I was very close. Fortunately it ran the other way but it could have been messy.

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PostPosted: 14:03 - 27 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

gsxrmick wrote:
Horses should stay in fields where they belong.

Most of the problem is that the riders seem to think they have a God given right to take up all the road. It makes my blood boil.


Many car drivers would say the same thing about bikes, and that they should stay on race-tracks where they belong.

In fact, aren't you taught in the CBT that when on a slow bike not to hug the kerb because it encourages unsafe overtaking and makes you less visible. Same principle with a horse.

Horses are vulnerable road users just like us. Treat them as you would expect to be treated yourself. Give them a wide berth and be considerate.
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PostPosted: 15:08 - 27 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok it might appear to some as hypocritical of me, being as i spent time getting a horse used to traffic yet wanting horses off the public roads. As they're not banned i wanted my friend to be safe.
They shouldn't be on the road without some basic training and an assessment. There is a minefield of problems linked with the assessment thing.....is it the rider? the combination? But the fact is a horse is the only vehicle that doesn't have a direct link to brakes or steering and when they go wrong they either do an endo, u-turn, wheelie or go flat out.

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PostPosted: 15:32 - 27 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

A little nugget of insight - most horse riders do not like to take their horses on the road. The reason they do is because the field the horse is kept in and where they need to exercise the horse has a few roads in between. Therefore it's a necessity rather than a choice of route for fun.

It's a chicken and egg situation getting a horse used to traffic - introduce to traffic on the road in order for the horse to become accustomed to it, so that it is not scared. Bear in mind also that there are many different vehicles with different noises and these all seem 'new' to a horse.

At the end of the day ignorant, inconsiderate people use different modes of transport. There are horrid car drivers, nobber bikers, moronic cyclists and stuck-up horse riders all giving the majority a bad name - try not to be one of them. I use all these forms of transport and I'd like to think I'm polite and considerate regardless of what I'm doing.

As for horse poo on the roads.....more accidents from diesel spills have been posted on this forum than from horse poo and farmers leave mud from their tractors, they are all hazards we have to face and deal with sensibly.
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PostPosted: 16:29 - 27 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fair comments Smile
But I also think, if some horse riders get mad at us and look at us to as if to say we are doing something bad. Then I say to my self well don't be on the road lol.

But I will have to see what happens next time I pass a Horse.

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PostPosted: 16:45 - 27 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

A dog is a predator, a horse is prey! Therefore a horse needs to be alert to moving things that will threaten its life - it's a primeval instinct and therefore cannot be removed only managed. Hence the necessary long haul 'teaching' it to accept that cars are not a threat.

Also, bear in mind that a horse does not see in the same way that we do as they process the information slightly differently. If they see with their left eye on the way down the road, they then see it all over again with their right eye on the way back - they don't think 'oh, there's that thing I saw earlier', it's like 'bugger me that's frightening, where's that come from' Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 16:52 - 27 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I treat horses the same as any other vehicle on the road, and overtake them accordingly. I don't rev the tits off it, nor do I select a high gear and go as slow as possible.

Should horsey rider find this unacceptable, they are welcome to cry themselves to sleep over it. If they choose to ride an unpredictable vehicle that likes to leave greasy shit on the road, then other road users are welcome to extend them the same courtesy.

The hunt though. 40 horses blocking both sides of the road, with the riders acting like they own it, and the followers blocking the whole thing and parked on the verge for miles around. They get the redline until they move over and let me pass. If it spooks the horses and one or two throw the rider, then I would do a little sex wee.
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PostPosted: 16:55 - 27 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sure Stinkwheel can explain better as he's an expert, but it's something to do with processing information in the brain - vision for us is 100% each eye, so we see something one side the other side also knows it's there. With a horse it's less (can't remember if it's 40% or 60% now) and they spook at strange things. For instance bin bags (black and flappy) are a known problem. They do learn and if things are familiar they get to know them but if stuff moves about and is the same thing but in a different place they often spook all over again and you, as a rider, have to re-assure them. Younger horses are usually more nervous than older, wiser ones but sometimes old ones get cranky!! (bit like us really!) Laughing

Not sure horses drink coca cola, but hey? Wink
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PostPosted: 17:07 - 27 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, to a degree this explains that a little, but there is also something to do with the way the brain processes too the overlap bit, but I'll google some more!!

Note the ten foot behind bit - pretty much where we tend to sit on our bikes! Rolling Eyes

Edit: Can't find the % given for any overlap, but the article above suggests that there is none! I was led to believe there was some but meh!
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PostPosted: 17:11 - 27 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

robby wrote:
The hunt though. 40 horses blocking both sides of the road, with the riders acting like they own it, and the followers blocking the whole thing and parked on the verge for miles around. They get the redline until they move over and let me pass. If it spooks the horses and one or two throw the rider, then I would do a little sex wee.


You'll like beagle packs then, they do it on foot Very Happy

Clutch in, coast past on idle, give em a wide berth. They're animals so unpredictable, somewhere in between scallies and city centre students on push bikes.
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PostPosted: 20:41 - 27 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, that's some thing new to me
Learn some thing new every day.

That would just get on your nerves having to see what they see lol.
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PostPosted: 21:09 - 27 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Carlos NSR125 wrote:
Wow, that's some thing new to me
Learn some thing new every day.

That would just get on your nerves having to see what they see lol.


See there you go - glad to have been of educational service!! Wink

............oh, and just for the record just because the poor horse is being ridden by an ignorant, rude and stuck up individual it doesn't give you the right to scare it, although I do appreciate that by scaring it, the afore mentioned tw4t may get just desserts and be dumped on the tarmac!
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PostPosted: 21:40 - 27 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

CHR15 wrote:
nah.. easier to smack the riders arse as you go past.


Ooooo! I was soooo tempted to do that at the weekend to a male cyclist wearing white lycra shorts Shocked

If it hadn't been for the fact that I thought I'd probably stack the bike in the process (and that would have been very embarassing) I'd have given it a 'gentle' slap - like a lovely full moon, it was! Laughing
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PostPosted: 21:54 - 27 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looking at it from a different aspect, how many of you have been driving your car, and spotted a bike coming up the road behind you, and you move over to let it through...does the biker always look at you and wave to say thanks?

No, not always...! Why? Well sometimes it's best to keep both hands on the handlebars and do what you need to do...could be the same for the horse-rider.

They might be thinking, 'oh thanks...' but the look on their faces shows snooty to you...but seeing as you don't actually know that person or know how they 'look' when grateful/ worried/ scared/ concentrating...it is really hard one to call.

Don't expect thanks for everything all of the time, and such things won't bother you. Thumbs Up
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