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Read the hypothetical situation, decide on...
Obstruction
3%
 3%  [ 1 ]
Wasting Police Time
89%
 89%  [ 25 ]
Both
7%
 7%  [ 2 ]
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The999Kid
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PostPosted: 22:41 - 31 May 2009    Post subject: Random Hypothetical Reply with quote
Just as a random thought me and my dad had a discussion in the car over the following situation.

"You are riding a fully legal bike, with all relevant documentation, tax, insurance, full license and pulled over for a random tug as part of a police crackdown on illegal bikers. When interviewed by the police you give your correct name, but state that you have stolen the bike, have no insurance, MOT or Tax, and not even a CBT."

Now when the rozzers find out you have sent them on a wild goose chase with your details, would they charge you with obstruction, or wasting police time?


Just a random hypothetical question
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The Disapproving Brit
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PostPosted: 22:55 - 31 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
perverting the course of justice.

Also, they'll have already siezed your bike for no insurance by this point, costing you £120 plus £12/day storage.
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PostPosted: 22:59 - 31 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
Hyperthetical questions deserve hyperthetical answers.
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PostPosted: 23:21 - 31 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
£80 PND for Wasting Police Time

And as many FPN's they can find on your bike as possible. More than 3 and you get a court date.
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PostPosted: 23:38 - 31 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
timbstoke wrote:
perverting the course of justice.

Also, they'll have already siezed your bike for no insurance by this point, costing you £120 plus £12/day storage.


Not perverted the course of justice. There would have to be an offence that was lied about/covered up etc etc

Bike wouldnt be seized for no insurance without a PNC check
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PostPosted: 03:26 - 01 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
doesn't a hyperthetical question not require an answer Confused
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The Original Muzza
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PostPosted: 03:47 - 01 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
cal91 wrote:
doesn't a hyperthetical question not require an answer Confused


hyper- is the opposite of hypo- so since hypothetical questions don't require an answer, a hyperthetical question DEMANDS AN ANSWER, NOW!
The OP was relaying a hypothetical situation, which is very different to hypothetical question.

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DEN MONKEY
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PostPosted: 09:06 - 01 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
My hypothetical response was extremely witty, unbelievably insightful and beyond many who read this threads understanding.

Unfortunately my real response is I don't know.
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PostPosted: 09:06 - 01 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
By the time they have pulled you they know who the bike belongs to, whether it's insured and whether it's taxed and MOT'd.

and all at the press of a button....

Make no mistake, big brother is watching you. Shocked
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PostPosted: 10:16 - 01 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
Mister James wrote:
£80 PND for Wasting Police Time

Since we're on a hypothetical thread, how much could you fine the rozzers for Wasting Your Time (capitalisation, right?) then?
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The Disapproving Brit
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PostPosted: 10:52 - 01 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
R6jonny wrote:
timbstoke wrote:
perverting the course of justice.

Also, they'll have already siezed your bike for no insurance by this point, costing you £120 plus £12/day storage.


Not perverted the course of justice. There would have to be an offence that was lied about/covered up etc etc

Bike wouldnt be seized for no insurance without a PNC check


Fair point. But if you said you'd stolen the bike, they'd nick you for theft on the spot, and almost certainly recover the bike. So it'd still cost you. If the £80 wasting police time is right, that's £200 before you've even started.
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PostPosted: 12:08 - 01 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
cal91 wrote:
doesn't a hyperthetical question not require an answer Confused


That would be a rhetorical question.

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UnknownStuntm...
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PostPosted: 12:11 - 01 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
GhostRider wrote:
cal91 wrote:
doesn't a hyperthetical question not require an answer Confused


That would be a rhetorical question.

GhostRider

Rhetorical, eh?

7....
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GhostRider
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PostPosted: 12:28 - 01 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
UnknownStuntman wrote:

Rhetorical, eh?

7....


You know, I spent a minute or two figuring out how I could slip that into my original reply, but then gave up. Im not sure if it's sad or cool that I know exactly what you're on about Laughing

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cal91
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PostPosted: 00:54 - 02 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
GhostRider wrote:
cal91 wrote:
doesn't a hyperthetical question not require an answer Confused


That would be a rhetorical question.

GhostRider


Thats the one!!

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PostPosted: 15:31 - 02 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
GhostRider wrote:
UnknownStuntman wrote:

Rhetorical, eh?

7....


You know, I spent a minute or two figuring out how I could slip that into my original reply, but then gave up. Im not sure if it's sad or cool that I know exactly what you're on about Laughing

GhostRider


I wasnt going to let this get to me but it has, please explain.
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PostPosted: 15:39 - 02 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
I even tried googling it Sad
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The999Kid
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PostPosted: 16:26 - 02 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
UnknownStuntman wrote:
Mister James wrote:
£80 PND for Wasting Police Time

Since we're on a hypothetical thread, how much could you fine the rozzers for Wasting Your Time (capitalisation, right?) then?
Smile


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UnknownStuntm...
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PostPosted: 16:49 - 02 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
Mister James wrote:
I even tried googling it Sad

I know I'm going to lose cool points here. But think 'What would Homer J say?'.

And I'm guessing the OP was thinking the same direction as I was about wasting each other's time. Hence the question Mister James...?
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The999Kid
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PostPosted: 22:45 - 02 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
UnknownStuntman wrote:

And I'm guessing the OP was thinking the same direction as I was about wasting each other's time.


how right you are.... i wonder how much time i can waste without actually committing an offence.... perhaps exercising my right to silence for a good 5 hours or so despite no need to... Thumbs Up

and i have no criminal record and are completely unknown to police so i cant be traced with the PNC....

The other way is to deliberately omit certain details without telling a lie...

E.G.

Copper: Is this your machine sir?
Me: Well i know the owner... (ME!)
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PostPosted: 10:21 - 03 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
This isn't quite right but good enough:

Marge: What are we going to do?
Homer: I don't know
Marge: It was a rhetorical question
Homer: Rhetorical eh? 7!
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UnknownStuntm...
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PostPosted: 11:23 - 03 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
Moonie - you suck! See PROPER answer below... Rolling Eyes

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Homer: Seven.
Lisa: No, dad, it's a rhetorical question.
Homer: OK, eight.
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