Anyone a super fittie ?

shellshock · Spanner Monkey Joined: 25 Jul 2004 Karma :

Hi,

Looking to take up running again after a very long break (read 15 years), what is the absolute minimum kit I would need ?

I've budgeted £50/60 on a pair of trainers, otherwise, any ideas ?

I'm hoping to build up to 3 runs of 30/40 mins per week, with maybe a yoga class as well to add in some stretches.

Oh, and I damaged my knee quite badly when I was a teen, have run since then, but last time I attempted a run, was in agony for 3 days after. Hopefully I know a bit better this time, with warming up, but any other ideas, support bandage ??

Thanks in advance.

Tonka · World Chat Champion Joined: 11 Jun 2008 Karma :

Only advice I would give is go to a specialist running shop to buy your trainers. They will assess your gait and you will minimise the chances of subsequent injury through poor fitting foot wear. Some people get an assessment and then buy through the net which is something you may wish to do if your budget is tight, but personally I prefer to buy from the shop as they've provided the advice.

Build up your miles gently and you should be just fine Thumbs Up

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trevoriv · World Chat Champion Joined: 04 Jun 2005 Karma :

If it's been so long i'd try and get a proper medical checkup especially on that knee and make sure everything is okay.

Some decent trainers, try and get to a specialist shop that has a gait measurement machine (ie a treadmill with a camera so they can see if you have any problems with under or over pronation or anything like that.)

Sounds daft but the most important part of equipment I have found over the years is good running socks. Expect to pay around £7-10 a pair for decent wicking socks that will help to prevent blisters.

Shorts/T-shirt wise just try and get wicking stuff and steer clear of cotton as it chafes.

Once you get into the swing of things it's worthwhile looing at getting a heartrae monitor etc and something that measures your pace and distance.

Plus if you haven't done much running for a while you may have to put a few quid aside for some physio.
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Annabella · Like a person, only smaller Joined: 03 Feb 2002 Karma :

Ditto what Tonka's said.

Definitely get into a running shop and they'll watch you run in different shoes with different support and advise what is best. It really does make all the difference - I did a 5 mile cross country run last year in an old pair of running shoes (didn't want to knacker my then brand new ones) and thought 'it's only 5 miles, a one off, I won't notice' - but I really did and my knees hurt a little afterwards.

Build yourself up slowly and you'll probably find that as your muscles develop they'll support your damaged knee.
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Hazylogic · World Chat Champion Joined: 22 Feb 2009 Karma :

Start off with a pair of crocks, then move onto flipflops as an intermediate. And when you're ready - you will know when - then, and only then can you wear some clogs.

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JonB · Afraid of Mileage Joined: 03 Jun 2004 Karma :

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JonB · Afraid of Mileage Joined: 03 Jun 2004 Karma :

When you go in the running shop, look past brand names. My trainers are made by a company called Brooks, never heard of them, but i've never looked back, they are fantastic. My last pair were Asics...
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shellshock · Spanner Monkey Joined: 25 Jul 2004 Karma :

Ah shit, I posted mine before I noticed your reply Jon.

Cheers, you've come a long way chap, I was actually bragging about your '3 peaks challenge' to my neighbour today feeling rite proud of you ! I managed to see your pics off Bellas facebook, well done and good look on Sunday Thumbs Up

I don't see my knee as being a prob, I have managed to swim really well and take part in aerobics with no problem, just the running which was a prob, BUT I was using very old trainers Rolling Eyes

Thanks for the tips Very Happy

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trevoriv · World Chat Champion Joined: 04 Jun 2005 Karma :

Brand really does mean nothing. Check this out to get an idea of what type of shoe you need: https://www.runnerscentre.com/shoes.htm

Brooks, Saucony, Mizuno and Asics are all well respected in the running world.

I swear by my Saucony Triumphs and my Fox River socks - made running enjoyable again Laughing

If you want to save money try and see if you can get last seasons models - IE the Triumph 6's are the current model at £90 but I did see the 5's at £40 recently and they are practically the same shoe.

I also run with a Suunto T3 with heart monitor and step counter which although expensive is a cracking bit of kit.

Jon B, that's an impressively low HR, what's your peak? I'm currently avg around 180+ with a 195 peak on 10k and below. Although to be fair I dont run that much these days, down to about 30km a week Sad

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JonB · Afraid of Mileage Joined: 03 Jun 2004 Karma :

Can't seem to get much over 185bpm running, not quite sure why. My theoretical maximum for my age is 199. Though playing football I regularly hit 195bpm.

I'm not quite sure why my resting heart rate is so low, but believe me it is annoying, at night I can physically feel my torso swaying from left to right with the hard beating of my heart. It has got to the point where I am having trouble getting to sleep as a consequence!
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GhostRider · World Chat Champion Joined: 31 Jan 2008 Karma :

I can't run for shit, however just thought I'd add that both when I did a very brief stint in the TA, the PTI mentioned Asics, Pony and Hi-Tecs as decent running shoes. This was confirmed by a couple of marines I met on my brothers ship, though they mentioned a couple more that I can't remember, but the basic jist was that all the trainers that you thought were gash are the best for running in, and don't even think about going near anything with Nike/Adidas/Reabok etc on it.

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JonB · Afraid of Mileage Joined: 03 Jun 2004 Karma :

Definately agree. Adidas et al, are only fashion trainers really. Though within their higher price point, i'm talking £100+ they are probably pretty good.

I got my Brooks Ghost II for £59 down from £85 just cause I was a poor a student, the guy in the shop felt sorry for me. Very Happy

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shellshock · Spanner Monkey Joined: 25 Jul 2004 Karma :

Hmmm, I know. Probably in a slightly different league there though Laughing

Shock absorber all the way Thumbs Up

What music do any of you use (if any), I realise everyone will be different, but I'm just curious.

I'm planning on starting on a mix of grass and soft path Tonka, so should be ok.

Hopefully one day very soon I'll be understanding the HR convo, I'll let you know how I get on.

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Fnatic · World Chat Champion Joined: 11 May 2008 Karma :

I recently bough some Nike Air Pegasus+ 25's. Very good trainers at about £50 from the right places. They also have the option that if you have an iPod you can be an attatchment for about £20 that records your pace, time and distance on the iPod and then uploads it when you get home to an online profile.

https://www.sportsdirect.com/Images/Products/12903201_l.jpg

https://www.sportsdirect.com/Products/SD/PID-Nike+Air+Pegasus+25-129032.aspx?ColCode=12903201

Rottweiler · Scooby Slapper Joined: 25 Feb 2008 Karma :

^^^^ there good my mates got some.

i have new balances which are good and a respected/known brand.

get a shoe 1/2 a size bigger then your size because your feet expand when you run dont ask why fitness trainer at a gym told me.
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JonB · Afraid of Mileage Joined: 03 Jun 2004 Karma :

Egret · Nova Slayer Joined: 13 Jan 2008 Karma :

To chuck a spanner in it, if your knee is buggered you might want to try cycling. It's much better on the knees, but I personally hate it as you end up going much further, and I find it much harder to breath/pace myself.

Anyway, the above advice is sound. For reference, I currently have a pair of sauconys which are good shoes, but not a patch on my previous asics.

shellshock · Spanner Monkey Joined: 25 Jul 2004 Karma :

Hopefully my knee isn't buggered, I have run, swam and walked endless miles without any hint of trouble, so I'm hoping that if I take it easy, make sure I warm up properly and stay off the hard stuff I'll be ok.

Must be a case of too long being a semi couch potato Doh!

colin1 · Captain Safety Joined: 17 Feb 2005 Karma :

why risk the knee running, when you could ride a bicycle instead ?

i reckon im a supper fittie, as supper comes first before any ideas of being a fittie

got to get your priorities right
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Shaun · Likes 'em bent Joined: 17 May 2003 Karma :

Whilst he is an idiot....

I took up running briefly a while back, at first it destroyed my knee every time (I have trouble with it for some reason). I started cyclin to and from work, a couple of months of that and I could then run comfortably, plus my stamina had increased due to cycling, didn't take long to be able to cope with 5 miles of running after that.

Didn't really enjoy it though sadly, so I got lazy again.