Oil level advice

bacon · World Chat Champion Joined: 09 Jan 2009 Karma :

Hey, did an oil change yesterday on my b1, changed filter etc, let it drain for ages, tilted bike back and forth to get as much as i could out

I dont have a paddock stand or anything so i was filling it, tilting it towards me, topping up etc

The bike took about 3.8-3.9L, book says 3.6 with a filter change..

Ran the engine and topped it up a bit. With the oil fully warmed up and the engine off with oil left to settle, it went slightly over the upper line, and on a cold engine checked this morning the oil sits between the levels (slightly towrads upper)

With the engine "running" after a quick half hour ride a min ago, the oil sits between upper and lower level quite nicely, slightly towards the upper level

I was just wondering if using more oil than it said too is a problem? I know overfilling can cause pressure problems bursting seals and a stiff clutch.

never changed oil before, so wondered in what state you read the oil level , sorry to be a pain

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stesmith · Two Stroke Sniffer Joined: 01 May 2009 Karma :

i done a full oil change on mine the other day, its a B1. let the oil get about between the lines and let it run.

when i returned it was just below the lines and it used up near enough a full 4L of oil.

But mine was on paddock stands, and half of the engines oil ended up all over the road when some old biddy knocked me off and smashed my stator cover!

My dad's rode bikes for 30 odd years and stripped and serviced more bikes than iv had hot dinners and he said it would be fine.
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bacon · World Chat Champion Joined: 09 Jan 2009 Karma :

i dont have a paddock stand, so checking the level im going onto the oil level side, and tipping the bike towards me (away from the side stand) till its level, and reading the glass

manual is kinda useless tbh, says fill up to upper level, let the engine run and top up. doesnt say if it should be at the upper level when its cold, warm, hot, running etc

yeah the 4L container is almost empty in mine too, hmm

Howling TerrorOutOfOffice · Super Spammer Joined: 05 Dec 2008 Karma :

Hi, what i did was decant the old oil into a measuring jug so i knew exactly what had come out. Put the same amount back in. Run...Settle..Check

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Ichy · World Chat Champion Joined: 15 Jul 2005 Karma :

Its pretty safe to rely on the level in the site glass as long as the bike is level, I personally feel its more realistic than measuring.

Its a bit misleading to measure what you take out and put the same back since your bike with naturally burn/lose oil over time.
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S1KE · Brolly Dolly Joined: 20 May 2007 Karma :

Hi,

What kinda oil you guys using in your b1h ninjas just out of interest?

I'm using silkolene fully synthetic....

And if I change the oil with the filter it will take the full 4 litres as the manual says it will...

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ZRX61 · Victor Meldrew Joined: 05 Nov 2003 Karma :

With Kaw's always keep the oil about 2mm from the top of the window (with the engine off, obviously) It prevents expensive noises.

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Ben. · World Chat Champion Joined: 10 Jul 2007 Karma :

rules for checking oil:

1 - the bike has to be totally level, so no paddock stands, no side stands etc.

2 - what does the manual say? If it says use 10w 30 semi synth, dont use 10w 30 fully synth. It will tell you how to check the oil, some say run the engine for 30 seconds then check the oil, some say check it from cold.

3 - dont trust what the amount says, use you sight glass or dip stick.

and fill your filter up with oil before you put it on the bike, it ruins the bearings otherwise.
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I am going to fit titanium and carbon fibre oil filter bearings to the Badger now. What was it that Sickpup said about workshop advice?
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Ichy · World Chat Champion Joined: 15 Jul 2005 Karma :

I can let you have some of them bearings cheap but your going to need an osmosis seal with a slipper ring for them to work properly. I recommend nano bearings since they last longer, being generous I'll let you have a bag full and I'll even chuck in 1hr of tech support for 50 quid.
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Timmeh · World Chat Champion Joined: 01 Nov 2006 Karma :

I fitted a new oil filter but I forgot to remove the axle roller bearing hub plate transit bolt and I ruined it.

Take note people, the best way to free your oil filter bearings is to drill a small hole through the top of it before you fit it to your bike.

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