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bmwsport
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PostPosted: 20:28 - 04 Jun 2009    Post subject: Exhaust paste.. Reply with quote

Guys,

I've got to refit the exhaust on my rs125, is there a particular type of exhaust paste/sealant stuff your meant to use of will any dedicated exhaust paste be ok?

Cheers.
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PostPosted: 20:49 - 04 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,
as long as you have the exhaust gasket, sealant isnt a neccessity.
but no harm in using a little ordinary high temp exhaust paste.
i think it even says to do this in the workshop manual, but i can honestly say i have never used it on an rs.
with a new gasket & a clean mounting stub/manifold,& tight springs, i have never seen the need for it.
especially on the more expensive exhausts like the jl, where the manifold fits onto the cylinder & the exhaust like a glove.
self sealing with built in o-rings- no leaks whatsover.
cheers,
GAZ
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PostPosted: 22:24 - 04 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Exhaust paste is 100% utterly useless for making joints. It sets hard, so within weeks the vibration in the joint breaks it up and it falls out. There's now a space where the paste was, i.e. your exhaust is leaking.

Use proper gaskets, if you must fill some inexplicable voids, use high temperature silicone, or silicone bathroom sealant at a push. Choose a pretty colour, obv.

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PostPosted: 22:29 - 04 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi,
i presumed he was talking about coating the surfaces around the gasket area.
not instead of a gasket.
which is why i recommended high temp sealant. flexible stuff would be better obviously, but tbh i dont see the need for ANY sealant, with a decent gasket & springs.
cheers,
GAZ
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PostPosted: 22:41 - 04 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I presumed that too. It's not what exhaust paste is for* and it'll fail either way

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* Exhaust paste is for selling to gullible people that think it can plug holes in terminally rotten exhausts, thus increasing the profitability of Halfords.
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PostPosted: 19:57 - 05 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi guys,

Ok cheers, my exhaust is an Arrow item, which on my bike slides over the manifold stub, its quite snug and theres no signs of soot etc around the manifold, i just want to put it back together properly and to make sure there are no leaks.
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PostPosted: 19:59 - 05 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Leave it clean, a slight leak on it is fine. I get i bit of soot leaking out of mine.
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PostPosted: 20:10 - 05 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

you can use a little coppaslip if you need a bit of lube for assembling.
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PostPosted: 21:47 - 05 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

cool thanks vincent,

Is that stuff available from most diy places?
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PostPosted: 21:51 - 05 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just to be clear, if you spend £2 on a new gasket, it won't need sealant and it won't leak.

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bmwsport
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PostPosted: 21:53 - 05 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks.. but i don't think there is a gasket.. i'm not talking about the manifold here..
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PostPosted: 22:00 - 05 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

You could have said!

Generally, there will be a gasket at any joint, you only need to revert to silicone* if it's bodged and/or broken. If it's a sleeve joint (one tube fits up inside another) it should be so tight when it's clamped that it won't need sealant anyhoo.

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* Seriously, if it's towards the back of the exhaust where it's a bit cooler, any decent silicone from B&Q will hold out fine. You'll need to find a motor factors (or chimney installer!) for the high temp stuff.
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PostPosted: 22:14 - 05 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

bmwsport wrote:
Hi guys,

Ok cheers, my exhaust is an Arrow item, which on my bike slides over the manifold stub, its quite snug and theres no signs of soot etc around the manifold, i just want to put it back together properly and to make sure there are no leaks.


I did say.. lol

Ok well it is a sleeve type joint, but there are no clamps or bolts as its held onto the manifold by two springs only, i guessi could just put it back on as it was, but just thought the exhuast is pretty important on a two stroke so dont want to have any leaks..
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PostPosted: 13:50 - 06 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi,
you dont need anything between those 2 parts.
should slide together & fit snugly.(as long as there both clean)
decent springs will hold them together.
(which is why the springs are a c*nt to hook on, lol)
cheers,
GAZ
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PostPosted: 07:34 - 07 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any tips on getting a tight gasket into place....mine just
wont go in its so tight Thumbs Down
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PostPosted: 07:55 - 07 Jun 2009    Post subject: Re: Exhaust paste.. Reply with quote

bmwsport wrote:
Guys,
is there a particular type of exhaust paste/sealant stuff

Cheers.


Firegum is made specifically for assembling push fit exhausts. its lubes up the joint for assembly then, when the exhaust warms up, expands and sets to a sort of rubber texture making it flexible. Easy to get apart if you need to. Costs about 3 quid.
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