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Paulington
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PostPosted: 21:03 - 06 Jun 2009    Post subject: Bargains bargains.. Reply with quote

Hey;

Dad's finally driven a hard bargain with me in the fact I need to get a 125 bike for three months and if I don't drop it he'll spend some real cash on a sporty '6 for me.

My question is, best 125cc sports at the moment? Up to about £2k as I won't be keeping it very long with any luck. Praying

Best being best handling/looking/most reliable for the price range. I was thinking either a Gilera SC125 or RS125 kind of thing. Will be for derestricting.

Also, what kind of speeds do they do restricted/derestricted?

Thanks! Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 21:10 - 06 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

If its just going to be 3 months, what are you doing, waiting for a test?

if so i would choose to get a cheap old one that i can clean before i sell it and make a few £. But if your goign for the looks and want it to be fast for the next 3 months till you get a bigger bike, i sugest a 2 smoker. Faster than 4's and it dont really matter how much you thrash it, you wont be doing the rebuild on it.

RS125 their fast
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PostPosted: 21:12 - 06 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get either the Gilera SC125 or the Derbi GPR125 (same bikes). They both use Yamaha engines so are much more reliable than the unreliable RS125.
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PostPosted: 21:14 - 06 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

ThatHornet wrote:
If its just going to be 3 months, what are you doing, waiting for a test?

if so i would choose to get a cheap old one that i can clean before i sell it and make a few £. But if your goign for the looks and want it to be fast for the next 3 months till you get a bigger bike, i sugest a 2 smoker. Faster than 4's and it dont really matter how much you thrash it, you wont be doing the rebuild on it.

RS125 their fast

Going to be 3 months because my Dad is confident I'm going to drop my first bigger-than-50 bike, which I don't blame him for as I most probably am.

Take my A2 on said bike, derestrict then ride for 3 months. After which he'll get me a bigger bike. Peace of mind for him I guess.

Love the outlook. (: I was thinking RS125s as the engines are effectively my Kart engines so we know them inside out.
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PostPosted: 21:18 - 06 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wish my dad would give me 2k for a 125 then another wedge after 3 months. Rolling Eyes
Get a job and earn it.

So when can we expect claims of 130 from your 125 judging by your 50.
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PostPosted: 21:22 - 06 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steve-D wrote:
Wish my dad would give me 2k for a 125 then another wedge after 3 months. Rolling Eyes
Get a job and earn it.

So when can we expect claims of 130 from your 125 judging by your 50.

Whatever. Laughing

Constructive replies would be much more helpful, don't act like a tool. The least you can do is throw some advice. Smile
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PostPosted: 21:25 - 06 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Buy an older NSR125 for about £800 and be happy.

Sports 6 is too much for someone of your maturity.
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PostPosted: 21:30 - 06 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

ms51ves3 wrote:
Get either the Gilera SC125 or the Derbi GPR125 (same bikes). They both use Yamaha engines so are much more reliable than the unreliable RS125.

Was looking at an SC125, £1400 as it is stolen/recovered, fine besides that though from quite a good shop we know.

Cheers. Thumbs Up

@MarJay: It'll be restricted anyway, more than anything trying to get away from the sound of the two strokes, not a huge fan. If my Dad trusts me riding his bike then I think I'm plenty fine on a restricted 600 thanks.
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PostPosted: 21:35 - 06 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarJay wrote:
Sports 6 is too much for someone of your maturity.


I personally think he's got a lot more maturity than a few of the other 16/17 year olds on here.
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PostPosted: 21:37 - 06 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok then constructive.
Errm, skip the whole 125 get a bandit/hornet or older sports bike for around a grand. Keep the spare money in an ISA. Drop your grand bike, oh well its only a grand, drop your 3/4 grand bike then you will care.
Gets a year or 2's no claims, some decent riding experience. Then spend a bit more on your next bike.
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PostPosted: 21:39 - 06 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steve-D wrote:
Ok then constructive.
Errm, skip the whole 125 get a bandit/hornet or older sports bike for around a grand. Keep the spare money in an ISA. Drop your grand bike, oh well its only a grand, drop your 3/4 grand bike then you will care.
Gets a year or 2's no claims, some decent riding experience. Then spend a bit more on your next bike.

What I wanted to do to begin with but my Dad is odd like that. When I take my test on my birthday even if I pass I am waiting until mid-September to insure my new bike whatever it is due to having a years no-claims then. Thumbs Up

Cheers, will try to convince him still but I doubt it'll happen. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 21:52 - 06 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I recommend the hyosung GTR 125 for the best looking 125 and reliable . Dont get an RS I had a few of them. You shouldn't have trouble selling the GTR either.

Here is a pic of mine.
https://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o177/CRMCC/dragonfly/th_IMG_3815.jpg
2k for that one but you can pick one up cheaper I hear. And before anyone says its jap shit, I have never heard a bad thing about them or read a bad review.
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PostPosted: 21:54 - 06 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Would agree with your dad to stick with a 125 for a bit (and probably longer than 3 months).

The RS is not that unreliable, but it is a high maintenance bike and you don't really know how much of a muppet the previous owners were. While not really that closely related to Rotax kart engines, the 122 was actually sold for kart racing in some markets (not for the UK though I think).

Should be loads of 2nd hand bits around for the RS.

The NSR is cheaper and older, slightly slower but spares these days will not be as common 2nd hand.

The Gilera SC125 / GPR125 appears quite a bit more cheaply made than the RS. Rarer which will make 2nd hand parts harder to get.

All the best

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PostPosted: 21:56 - 06 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Daddy must have more money than sense.

Out of interest does he ride bikes too?
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PostPosted: 21:59 - 06 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

shaun_04 wrote:
Daddy must have more money than sense.

Out of interest does he ride bikes too?


Paulington wrote:
If my Dad trusts me riding his bike...
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PostPosted: 22:02 - 06 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

dragonfly wrote:
And before anyone says its jap shit, I have never heard a bad thing about them or read a bad review.

Erm, that'd be chinese Confused (yes, I know they're Korean). I've seen plenty of bad stuff written about them, plenty of which I've often repeated on here.
Sadly it seems British bike press rarely gives a 'bad review' and definitely not of 125s.
There seems to be a few people having problems with them on here, but no more than CBR125s, say.
As I've often said, one bike working well proves little - even a ratio of ten people with good experiences to one bad is still pretty bad.

I'd go for an NSR... plenty of bits around so you can fix it up before he finds out when you crash it Razz.
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PostPosted: 22:05 - 06 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok, smartypants.


Still talking stupid money for the purpose of the bike, but if you've got it...
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PostPosted: 22:05 - 06 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
Sadly it seems British bike press rarely gives a 'bad review' and definitely not of 125s.


That's because they dont have to own them.

Look at how many cars JC on Top gear thinks are great but are a pig to own.
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PostPosted: 22:08 - 06 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

gsxrmick wrote:

Look at how many cars JC on Top gear thinks are great but are a pig to own.

You really don't want to get me on to top gear and how the British public perceive it Rolling Eyes.
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PostPosted: 22:11 - 06 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cool Dad.
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PostPosted: 22:23 - 06 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

CG125 Thumbs Up.

Why spend 2k on a 3 month bike, spend £500 on a heap of shit, throw it down the road a few times, get settled.

Then buy a £4k 600 and kill yourself, hopefully you've insured yourself for more than £4500 so you dad should make a profit.

Anyway, CG125 Thumbs Up

https://www.sweller.co.uk/sob/images/frankrun/fr-cg125.jpg
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PostPosted: 22:23 - 06 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:

You really don't want to get me on to top gear and how the British public perceive it Rolling Eyes.


There is more factual content in one of Gordon Brown's speeches than in an episode of Top Gear. Laughing
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PostPosted: 22:35 - 06 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

And the top gear 'team' probably get a bigger pay packet /and/ more dodgy-expenses from the tax-payer than the entire cabinet combined!
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PostPosted: 22:50 - 06 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like you've got a nice Dad, he has earned his money and is doing what he wants to do with it so fair play to him. No need to be all up on his case about it.

I'd reccomend a Honda XR 125. Great little bike, bro had one from new, very easy to use and nice bit of power, good reliability. CG125 is good too.
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PostPosted: 23:09 - 06 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
And the top gear 'team' probably get a bigger pay packet /and/ more dodgy-expenses from the tax-payer than the entire cabinet combined!


I hate paying £150 quid license fee for the bbc to spend about half (gross exaggeration) of it on top gear, but then again if you gave a tick box to the halfwits that make up the majority of license payers along these lines:

[ ] Improved dramas, documentaries and Saturday night entertainment
[ ] Fast cars and exploding caravans

I think we know what the knuckle draggers would tick. Nothing good on BBC nowadays except QI and HIGNFY and they are low budget comparatively speaking. Sorry, off topic was that rant. What's this thread about? Erm...

Paulington: Get something with resale value, 3 months is nothing really so what if you don't have a shiny plastic covered monster. Have you got a full license yet or you going to be learning on the 125? Sports bikes aren't as easy to U-turn as a shitter.
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