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 Posted: 09:40 - 09 Jun 2009 Post subject: People dying... warning - gross details! |
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I have no idea why I'm really writing this except to perhaps get it out of my head and get peoples opinions and thoughts.
Just under 3 weeks ago I found out my dad was dead (heart attack), he lives 2 hours away from me on his own in his own house. It appears he'd been dead for about 3 weeks before anyone noticed and eventually got the police in.
Now my family (3 sisters, 2 brothers - I'm the youngest by 7 years)) and myself suffered a lot under him - all different kinds of abuse, some physical, mostly mental i.e bullying to the point of not being able to have any friends, own opinions etc. So when I left home at 18 (15 years ago) I wiped him out of my life, just like all my family did. 2 years ago my mum finally plucked up the courage to divorce him, and that was the last time I saw him, a sad man in the courts trying to stupidly argue why my mum shouldn't be divorcing him! Previous to that I think I last spoke to him about 12 years ago.
It was a bit of a shock to find out how long he'd been dead without anyone noticing but not really a great suprise, since he shunned his family away as much as 'most' of the family ignored him. So in many ways he's already been dead to me for years.
According to the police and coroner the house was in a mess, plus my sister went to the house to look for a will but didn't find one, she also said it was in a state and the smell was awful. No-one seemed willing to go to the house to sort stuff so I decided to go with my mum since me being the youngest, I was the only child to have lived in this house previously with my mum and dad. Well the stench was awful, the bathroom floor was covered in puke, his bed was covered in puke and quite a lot of blood. There were lots of maggots wriggling around and lots of flies. We ended up sticking everything in bin liners, chucking the mattress on the roof rack and taking it all to the tip.
Since then the funeral took place last week, I've had 2 weeks off work (1 week as holiday) and am now back at work and carrying on with life as normal. the only thing outstanding is what happens to the house, his car etc, etc - which is a very messy business due to 'in-family' arguments over how it should all be dealt with.
Thing is, I haven't shed a tear, I don't really feel very emotional about it and haven't really spoken about it to anyone a lot. I don't see the point. I've always kept things to myself deep down, shut stuff off (like most of my history of being at home) and just remain pretty passive about the whole thing.
I can't tell if this affects me as a person in my relationships, in my work or any other way. But surely to have gone through what I have, in particular the more recent clearing up and thoughts of maggots feasting on bodily fluids etc and not have any emotinal effect from it can't be a good thing!?
Perhaps I just deal with this kind of stuff very well or perhaps I have a bottomless pit in which I can place all my bad feelings and memories to never be seen again. Maybe one day in the future it'll all bubble up and I'll go on a killing spree before committing suicide (okay, that last one was a joke) but seriously, I'm not sure how I'm supposed to deal with this, if indeed I need to deal with it at all!?
Anyone had anything at all remotely similar happen to them?
 ____________________ Previous: Aprilia Habana Retro 50cc (beauty), Yamaha SR125 (fell apart), Honda XR125 (nippy little commuter), Honda SLR650 (Geewhizz), Yamaha Diversion 900S (Smoooooth) written off courtesy of a stupid escaped horse.
(7 year gap), BMW F650 (Relaxing ride). Aprilia Caponord ETV1000 (Big and bold). Yamaha FZS600 (got me in trouble too quick!).
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 Posted: 10:19 - 09 Jun 2009 Post subject: |
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| Monkeypie wrote: | No thank God.
What a mess people can get into, its all so sad. |
That is the over-riding thought on all of this, just how truly sad it is. He could have had a great life, a wife, 6 kids, 12 grandkids... and instead he chooses to be a grade A control freak, who dies alone without anyone even noticing for weeks. He's certainly taught the rest of us how NOT to treat your nearest and dearest thats for sure! ____________________ Previous: Aprilia Habana Retro 50cc (beauty), Yamaha SR125 (fell apart), Honda XR125 (nippy little commuter), Honda SLR650 (Geewhizz), Yamaha Diversion 900S (Smoooooth) written off courtesy of a stupid escaped horse.
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It might not be affecting you now, but I reckon it will in time. If you're worried, go see a doc and ask for a short term session with a councillor. I reckon since you care enough about the issue to post it here you've obviously got something going on there. Better out than in.  |
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Same sort of thing happened to me.
He was a cxnt now he's dead.Closure.
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Well that is the one thing that does piss me off, I was the only one prepared to go to the house and sort this mess out. My sister even went in there looking for paperwork and didn't bother clearing the worst of it out.
The bickering isn't really about the money in that sense, he doesn't have anything much, and what he did have will just about cover the cost of the funeral and solicitors fees. The house is already owned by a bank that he just paid rent to while he was alive. The problem lies in possible costs incurred because he kept the house in such an awful condition. Part of the agreement was that the house should be in a good condition and it certainly isn't, therefore possible charges could be sought. What needs to be found out is if we as a family would have to pay these or not... and I bloody hope not!! ____________________ Previous: Aprilia Habana Retro 50cc (beauty), Yamaha SR125 (fell apart), Honda XR125 (nippy little commuter), Honda SLR650 (Geewhizz), Yamaha Diversion 900S (Smoooooth) written off courtesy of a stupid escaped horse.
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I wouldn't worry about the relative lack of feeling. There's this overbearing assumption that as soon as someone dies, one should instantly be in floods of tears. This is simply not always the appropriate response, in my opinion.
There's been a couple of deaths i my family of incredibly unpopular people - the only reason that anyone cried was that they felt they'd lost the chance to try and straighten things out with the person involved (offspring, specifically). No-one missed them, per se.
Don't feel guilty, and don't get worked up about the fact that you're largely detached from it. If you have to foot the bill for the house's disrepair, then I'd insist on an even split. Consider it a visible point of closure, I guess. ____________________ '10 SV650SF, '83 GS650GT (it lives!), Questionable DIY dash project, 3D Printer project, Lasercutter project |
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Hi
Money owed by the deceased weather in unpaid bills or as charges due to the condition of the house will be made against his estate. If there is insufficent fund then they dont get paid. The family wont have to pay.
There are benefits you can claim to help with costs you can also say you are estranged and have nothing to do with it.
If you organise the funeral through the co-op they include free legal advice which might help you sort things out.
Most stuff is just form filling and you dont need to pay someone to do it.
This site has a lot of useful advice.
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Well I guess I'm just one of those who doesn't get very emotive about this sort of stuff, when my mum goes that really will be different though - I can tell that straight away, thankfully she's got a good few years left in her yet!
My wife is quite the opposite, she gets overly emotive half the time as far as I'm concerned. Unfortunately I don't think she understands me brilliantly because sometimes she likes to offer the shoulder to cry on so to speak and I just don't need it, I don't always explain myself very well in these situations though so hardly a suprise mixed messages get put about...
My mum is being supported and thought of a lot through this so no worries there, I guess we all just need time to grieve in our own ways too... thanks for the input guys n gals!  ____________________ Previous: Aprilia Habana Retro 50cc (beauty), Yamaha SR125 (fell apart), Honda XR125 (nippy little commuter), Honda SLR650 (Geewhizz), Yamaha Diversion 900S (Smoooooth) written off courtesy of a stupid escaped horse.
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 Posted: 20:36 - 11 Jun 2009 Post subject: Re: People dying... warning - gross details! |
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| beanfeast wrote: |
Perhaps I just deal with this kind of stuff very well or perhaps I have a bottomless pit in which I can place all my bad feelings and memories to never be seen again. Maybe one day in the future it'll all bubble up and I'll go on a killing spree before committing suicide (okay, that last one was a joke) but seriously, I'm not sure how I'm supposed to deal with this, if indeed I need to deal with it at all!?
Anyone had anything at all remotely similar happen to them?
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My dad died when I was 18, and I was actually pleased at the time, as I didnt get on with him. I wasn't close to him. Like you, I felt that I should feel something.
It did affect me, but more just like the rug had been pulled out from under me. It was unsettling.
People who are close with their family, won't understand, and will assume that you must feel some sadness really. Don't confuse them, and dont mention it.
I didnt feel any affection for my dad, whereas I have for pets, and girls I have had relationships with.
I think having fairly controlled emotions is a good thing. People who don't, often end up resorting to drugs to control their emotions. Bottling things up the natural way, is better than resorting to bottles of pills in my opinion.
It can be good to examine your feelings and emotions at times to sort your head out, but staying in control is good.
One thing you have missed out on, is being alone with the dead body, for it to really sink in that he is dead. It may sound odd, but that does help for it to sink in.
I now regret that I didnt patch things up with my dad before he died. I sort of ignored him.
He was a difficult person to live with, but I think I would get on with him now if he was alive. He was an interesting character, and probably could have helped me out a few times that I could have done with some help. ____________________ colin1 is officially faster than god |
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