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PostPosted: 18:17 - 10 Jun 2009    Post subject: Dog meat Reply with quote

Following on from the "DOGZ" thread...
Whould any of you eat dog? My own opinion is a little weighted by a couple of factors,
1. I am a vegetarian.
2. I do not like dogs.
If I ate meat I would eat dog, I would hope that they were kept in better conditions than they are in the East but I would still treat them as meat. I do not see much difference between eating pig and dog, both are very intelligent creatures. As it is I do not eat any meat at all but I wonder how you meat eaters feel about the subject and why you choose to eat some animals and not others.
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PostPosted: 18:26 - 10 Jun 2009    Post subject: Re: Dog meat Reply with quote

1930 Ariel wrote:
Following on from the "DOGZ" thread...
Whould any of you eat dog?


Dog owner - have eaten dog, but not my own.
Don't see the problem, meat is meat is meat.
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PostPosted: 18:36 - 10 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, I wouldn't. Nothing to do with it being furry but I have a strange concern that eating predators is a bad idea.
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PostPosted: 18:37 - 10 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, but do you consider a dog to be a filthy animal?

I wouldn't go so far as to call a dog filthy but they're definitely dirty. But, a dog's got personality. Personality goes a long way.

Ah, so by that rationale, if a pig had a better personality, he would cease to be a filthy animal. Is that true?

Well we'd have to be talkin' about one charming motherfuckin' pig. I mean he'd have to be ten times more charmin' than that Arnold on Green Acres, you know what I'm sayin'?
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PostPosted: 18:43 - 10 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd eat it if it tasted ok, meat on a plate is meat on a plate.

Wouldn't want to do the preparation though, a good friend of mine is a dog, I don't have any sheep friends, for example.

Any welsh in the house care to put their side across?
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PostPosted: 18:57 - 10 Jun 2009    Post subject: Re: Dog meat Reply with quote

1930 Ariel wrote:
Following on from the "DOGZ" thread...
Whould any of you eat dog? My own opinion is a little weighed by a couple of factors,
1. I am a vegetarian.
2. I do not like dogs.
If I ate meat I would eat dog, I would hope that they were kept in better conditions than they are in the East but I would still treat them as meat. I do not see much difference between eating pig and dog, both are very intelligent creatures. As it is I do not eat any meat at all but I wonder how you meat eaters feel about the subject and why you choose to eat some animals and not others.


Its not really a choice, we are fairly limited to what meat we get here, cow chicken, sheep and pig being the main ones, we dont get venison very often and i have never seen dog or horse avaliable. I would try all of the latter three but have never had the chance.

My favourite meat is a rare steak, barely cooked Drooling

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PostPosted: 19:06 - 10 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 19:06 - 10 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

It depends what it tastes like. I'm not over keen on strong gamey meat.
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PostPosted: 19:09 - 10 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I was hungry yes. Not a dog I knew though. Wouldn't see the point if there was chicken or beef available. I'd probably eat a person I didn't know if I was really hungry and nothing else available, though I heard it's a hard habit to break once you've tasted people.
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PostPosted: 20:13 - 10 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Carnivore meat tends to taste fairly bitter, as far as I'm aware, so only if it was prepared properly.
But yes, if it was offered (and prepared properly) I probably would.
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PostPosted: 20:19 - 10 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cuisine of Dog Meat


1. Bosintang (soup)

Dog Soup is called, Gaejang, Gajangkuk, or Gujang, Gujangaeng,
Guyoukgeng. It has been called Bosintang from the later part of 1940,but during
the period of the 1988 Olympic games, it was banned to use the name of
Bosintang, so its name was replaced by Youngyangtang, Sacheoltang,
Mungmungtang. But nowadays, the name of Bosintang is widely used instead
of Youngyangtang. Bosintang is made by boiling dog meat with thin soy paste,
tearing it into pieces, putting ingredients such as green onion, leek, stalk of taro,
brake into broth, and boiling it again to make Bosintang. In Kyungsang
province, to get rid of the smell, perilla purple are put in the soup. Perilla are
also used for ridding the smell. Taste of perilla is similar to that of dog, and
it becomes a good match to dog meat. Side dishes of dog meat are Kimchi,
fresh peppers, and cucumbers. Adding a glass of Soju(liquor) enhances the
taste.

The standard amount of ingredients for one portion.


(1) Ingredients

100g of boiled dog meat, 500g of gravy, 20g of green onion, 10g of a leek,
10g of perilla leaves, 100g of taro stalk soaked in water.

(2) Sauce

8g of salt, 2g of mashed garlic, 3g of perilla, 2g of red pepper, 2g of mashed
ginger, a little amount of pepper.

(3) Cooking instruction

After boiling the meat with gravy and stalk of taro for some time, boil again
after putting vegetables an d other ingredients into it. Before eating, sprinkle
pepper on it and put into an earthen bowl. The stalk of taro is to be kept in cold
water one or two days to get rid of its smell and taste.

Bosintang Picture

2. Jeongol (boiled dog meat mixed with spices and vegetables)

Eat while boiling to boil down some of the soup. Add lots of dog meat and
ingredients. Vegetables such as dropwort, perilla leaves, green onion and other
ingredients such as garlic, pepper, and red pepper are put in. It can be served
for a side dish with Soju (liquor) or for eating boiled rice. After eating, boiled
rice can be mixed with the remaining soup.

The standard amount of ingredients for one portion.

(1) Ingredients

200g of boiled dog meat, 150g of gravy, 50g of green onion, 50g of leek, 40g
of dropwort, 20g of perilla

(2) Sauce

3g of salt, 5g of perilla, 10g of mashed garlic, 2g of red pepper, a little amount
of pepper.

(3) Cooking Instructions

Eat while boiling the soup, dog meat, gravy, vegetables and other ingredients
in a pan. If it is excessively boiled, the color of vegetables can be changed,
deteriorating the taste of the soup. So once it is boiled, cooking over a weak fire,
begin eating.

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3. Suyuk(a boiled dog meat)

Suyuk is eaten with specific ingredients or salt. Add heat to the meat by boiling
water or steam for prevention from cooling down. Ingredients are to be made of
the mixture of soy bean paste with perilla, and one can eat the dog meat with the
addition of salt or these ingredients and wrapping it with perilla and lettuce.
Eating it with mildly-boiled leek is common. When eating Suyuk, Soju(liquor) is
usually accompanied by for its taste.

The standard amount of ingredients for one portion.

(1) Ingredients

200g of boiled dog meat, 50g of gravy, 1g of salt, 1g of garlic, a little amount
of pepper, leek, perilla leaves

(2) Sauce

It can be enjoyed at one's taste with the addition of mixture of soy bean
paste, sesame oil, perilla oil, or with salt on it.

(3) Cooking instructions

Put dog meat and gravy and ingredients into pan, and steam it with a weak
fire, eat with sauce. One can eat with boiled-leek. Perilla powder, perilla oil,
mustard, vinegar are to be added to the sauce.

Suyuk Picture

4. Duruchigi (mixture with seasonings)

It is a food made by mixing dog meat with seasonings and vegetables, and
boiling and roasting them. When eating Duruchigi, Soju(liquor) is usually
accompanied for its taste.

The standard amount of ingredients for one portion.

(1) Ingredients

200g of boiled dog meat, 20ml of gravy, 50g of green onion, 50g of leek, 40g
of dropwort, 20g of perilla leave, a little pepper, 5g of perilla oil, 1g of salt, 2g of
mashed garlic, 2g of mashed ginger, 2g of red pepper

(2) Cooking instructions

Put gravy and vegetables into heated pan and roast them, and after vegetables
become softened, put dog meat and ingredients into the pan and mix them. If it
is not salty enough, dip in the sauce.

Duruchigi Picture

5. Dogmeat Food developed by Professor Ann

Digested dogmeat : Dogmeat hydrolyzed by protease
Dogmeat powder : Digested dog meat powder
Dogmeat extract : Water extract of digested dogmeat and medical ingredient
Dogmeat wine : Wine of wax gourd and digested dogmeat fermented by yeast
Dogmeat vinegar : Vinegar of wax gourd and digested dogmeat fermented by
Acetobacter
Dogmeat red pepper paste : Red pepper paste fermented with the addition of
digested dogmeat
Dogmeat soy bean paste : Soy bean paste fermented with the addition of
digested dogmeat
Dogmeat soy sauce : Soy sauce fermented with the addition of digested
dogmeat
Dogmeat-red pepper paste pickle : Dogmeat pickled in red pepper paste
Dogmeat Kimchi : Kimchi fermented with the addition of digested dogmeat
Dog intestine sausage : Dog intestine into which blood of dog, vegetable and
dogmeat are stuffed
Dogmeat can : Canned dogmeat
Dogmeat noodle : Noodle with the addition of digested dogmeat
Dogmeat Chinese noodles : Chinese noodle with the addition of digested
dogmeat
Dogmeat puree : Puree with the addition of digested dogmeat
Dogmeat soup : Soup with the addition of digested dogmeat
Dogmeat beverage : Beverage of the dilution of digested dogmeat
Dogmeat mayonnaise : Mayonnaise from vinegar, digested dogmeat, oil and
egg
Dog oil mayonnaise : Mayonnaise from vinegar, dog oil and egg
Dogmeat ketchup : Ketchup from the mixture of digested dogmeat, tomato
puree
Dogmeat bread : Bread with the addition of digested dogmeat
Dogmeat cooky : Cooky with the addition of digested dogmeat
Dogmeat hamburger : Hamburger pad made of dogmeat
Dogmeat cutlet : Cutlet made of dogmeat
Dogmeat ham : Ham made of dogmeat
Dogmeat sausage : Sausage made of dogmeat
Dogmeat cosmetics : Cream, essence and emulsion made from dog oil

Dogmeat-Food Picture
Dogmeat-Hamburger, Cooky ang Bread Picture
Dog Oil-Csmetics Picture

6. Dogmeat hamburger restaurant in Korea

Address: Renoir Restaurant, 143-5 Songpa-dong, Songpa-gu, Seoul.
Tel: (02) 421-6345
Menu: dog meat hamburger, dogmeat cutlet, dogmeat meatball, dogmeat soup.
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PostPosted: 20:27 - 10 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bosintang is what i had - its nickname is 'Strongman soup' as it's supposed to increase your sexual vigour. I had it down in the south, near Pohang - it's generally a bit more hushed-up in more densely populated areas to avoid upsetting us westerners.
As your recipe suggests, it goes nicely with Kimchi, but as i can't stand Soju, i had a few nice cold Korean (Hite or Cass are best)beers to wash it down.
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PostPosted: 20:30 - 10 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

As a child I had a pet rabbit, yet was happy to eat rabbit stew, as it wasn't my pet I was eating. I've owned a horse and eaten horse, again not my pet. I still love rabbit, but I'd give horse a miss unless it was the only thing available, as I didn't think it tasted great. I'm not sure how I would feel if I kept chickens, as I'm sure they would take on the pet persona after a while. Confused

I've tried all sorts of foods travelling overseas, but most I wouldn't actually choose to 'dine' on as they seem to me to be more novelty foods.

The main issue I have with any non vegetarian food is the quality and conditions it is reared in and if I was happy with it, then yes I would eat it. However, if my life depended on it I would think I would be less principled Laughing
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PostPosted: 20:41 - 10 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting link to some odd meats..
https://www.weirdmeat.com/2004/04/weird-meat-master-list.html
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PostPosted: 21:03 - 10 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd eat owt, im from the north. Happily eat dog, cat, rat etc.

I hear in places they do eat dog that its in a curried type of stew as above and thats pretty much all you can get and you cant taste anything but the spices etc.
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PostPosted: 21:39 - 10 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love meat, meaty bloody meat.

But I have no desire to eat a carnivore.
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PostPosted: 22:28 - 10 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

for me, dogs and cat's are things you have affection for.

Id probably prefer to eat human meat than eat the meat of dog or cat, as i dont have a universal feeling of affection for humans.

I think of pigs as more human or dog like than cows or chickens, so if I spent a bit of time around a pig, it might put me off eating pork.

Today I stroked a horse, but I dont think I'd have a problem eating horse meat.

I see ducks by the canal on my way to and from work, so it feels a little funny that I've eaten duck.

The canada geese would provide a lot more meat, and they are quite aggressive as if they own the place. They do get a little scared if you hiss back Smile

I guess you could probably kill one for the pot. I'm not sure how legal this would be or if someone saw you, they could get the rspca on you or something.

However they tend to come in pairs, and I'd feel a bit bad killing one, as the other one would be sad, or killing a pair that were still raising little uns.

So I'd have to kill a pair, that didnt have goslings. Probably not worth the hassle though really.
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PostPosted: 22:30 - 10 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

colin1 wrote:
The canada geese would provide a lot more meat, and they are quite aggressive as if they own the place. They do get a little scared if you hiss back Smile

I guess you could probably kill one for the pot. I'm not sure how legal this would be or if someone saw you, they could get the rspca on you or something.

However they tend to come in pairs, and I'd feel a bit bad killing one, as they other one would be sad, or killing a pair that were still raising little uns.

So I'd have to kill a pair, that didnt have goslings. Probably not worth the hassle though really.


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PostPosted: 22:33 - 10 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Colin, Canada gooses are just starling size bits of meat with two Kg of extra lard on them.
Not worth eating once they get to puberty.
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I wouldn't eat dog on the basis that it is useful to humans alive. Same with a horses. They are intelligent animals which can be put to work.

You have to have a distinction between animals to eat, and animals to use productively. You can't just go around fucking eating everything that moves, otherwise you've just undone about 10,000 years of civilisation.

Pigs, sheep, cows are all pretty much useless other than sauntering around turning cellulose into protein. Ergo, it's ok to eat them.



Okay so the mongrels that are bred for food in Asia aren't really good for much, but come on; dogs are a pretty crap choice as an eating animal. Small, noisy, active, inefficient at turning food into protein. I would dispute whether it actually even tastes good. I suspect it has more to do with 'tradition' than anything else. Apparently scaring the poor mut half to death in the seconds before it dies gives the meat a 'better flavour'. Basically an excuse to treat them however they want in the name of a 'delicacy'.

Another example: Shark fin soup is supposed to be a delicacy in China, which is basically their excuse for mutilating sharks by cutting their fins off then leaving them to bleed to death. But most Chinese wouldn't be able to tell the different between shark fin soup and vegetable stock. So it's basically bollocks.

Just because somewhere down the line someone declared dog meat a delicacy (he was probably bullshitting someone else at the time to get them to buy his crappy meat) is a shit excuse to keep farming it in the ways that they do.

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skluff wrote:
I wouldn't eat dog on the basis that it is useful to humans alive. Same with a horses. They are intelligent animals which can be put to work.

You have to have a distinction between animals to eat, and animals to use productively. You can't just go around fucking eating everything that moves, otherwise you've just undone about 10,000 years of civilisation.

Pigs, sheep, cows are all pretty much useless other than sauntering around turning cellulose into protein. Ergo, it's ok to eat them.



Okay so the mongrels that are bred for food in Asia aren't really good for much, but come on; dogs are a pretty crap choice as an eating animal. Small, noisy, active, inefficient at turning food into protein. I would dispute whether it actually even tastes good. I suspect it has more to do with 'tradition' than anything else. Apparently scaring the poor mut half to death in the seconds before it dies gives the meat a 'better flavour'. Basically an excuse to treat them however they want in the name of a 'delicacy'.

Another example: Shark fin soup is supposed to be a delicacy in China, which is basically their excuse for mutilating sharks by cutting their fins off then leaving them to bleed to death. But most Chinese wouldn't be able to tell the different between shark fin soup and vegetable stock. So it's basically bollocks.

Just because somewhere down the line someone declared dog meat a delicacy (he was probably bullshitting someone else at the time to get them to buy his crappy meat) is a shit excuse to keep farming it in the ways that they do.

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I have a feeling somebody has mentioned this already, but pigs are actualy pretty smart animals.

As an example give this a watch linkety-link, Pretty damn cool pig Thumbs Up

Would probably taste pretty good spit-roasted with bramley apple sauce in a bit of french stick, at the end of the day we have dogs to do tricks, and spit roast dog probably wouldnt taste too good, i vote for eating the wee pink piggy.

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PostPosted: 23:49 - 10 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

1930 Ariel wrote:
Colin, Canada gooses are just starling size bits of meat with two Kg of extra lard on them.
Not worth eating once they get to puberty.


are you telling me you have eaten a canada goose, or are you just guessing ?
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PostPosted: 23:59 - 10 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

1930 Ariel wrote:

Not worth eating once they get to puberty.


AFAIK the same can be said of human meat. Young and tender. Apparently the best way is to feed a 10 year old good quality food and give them beatings often to tenderise the meat. Eating them within a year, as otherwise that's just inhumane.
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Dogs eat shit, both their own any anyone else's they can get their paws on. They also eat vomit, after eating their shit.

I'd eat dog, but it would have to be battery dog, force fed corn fed chicken.
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The Shaggy D.A. wrote:
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