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WildGoose
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PostPosted: 23:14 - 16 Jul 2002    Post subject: Riding Abroad Reply with quote
any laws about this, for example, can you go over seas with L plates?

what about straight after passing your test, do you need and documents with you etc?

any points anyone has?
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PostPosted: 02:55 - 17 Jul 2002    Post subject: Reply with quote
Er, drive on the right side of the road?
Seriously though, no - you can't ride on L plates, and make sure your insurance covers you. Also make sure you have breakdown cover (AA or RAC), as it could cost alot to get back if things go wrong.
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PostPosted: 07:06 - 17 Jul 2002    Post subject: Re: Riding Abroad Reply with quote
I had thought you have to leave it two years before you can drive abroad after passing your test, however apparantly that isn't true. It still wouldn't be advisable, especially if you've just got a bigger bike.
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Kickstart
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PostPosted: 07:15 - 17 Jul 2002    Post subject: Reply with quote
Hi

Not heard of the 2 year limit, but they do have some other laws. Think for example that in FRance you need to be 18 before you can ride a large bike, so at 17 having just passed your test you still cannot go to FRance on a large bike. In Italy bikes under 150cc are not allowed on the motorways.

Oh, and in France and Belgium they still have a fair few junctions that are priority to the right.

All the best

Keith
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TiN
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PostPosted: 08:17 - 17 Jul 2002    Post subject: Reply with quote
I also heard that you need the full A license before travelling abroad?...when I was doing DAS, one of the guys said that he was only doing direct access 'cos he wanted to travel around Spain...Confused

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Demonic69
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PostPosted: 09:23 - 17 Jul 2002    Post subject: Reply with quote
The laws depend on the country you're visiting.
Each varies loads. You need to check what their laws are and see where you fit. Some will let you ride with L plates, some won't allow anyone under 23 to ride anything over 400 (I think) and loads more.
If you're ever wanting to ride abroad this should be the 1st thing you check.
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TiN
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PostPosted: 09:50 - 17 Jul 2002    Post subject: Reply with quote
https://www.bikerland.co.uk/Info%20&%20Tips/Riding%20Abroad.htm

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French traffic cops can impose on the spot fines for speeding. They can also calculate your average speed through tollbooths and issue a ticket on this evidence alone.


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Doddmaster
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PostPosted: 10:12 - 17 Jul 2002    Post subject: Reply with quote
But the French pigs are pretty cool about speeding... how fast were you going on the Bandit, Keith?? Laughing
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Robby
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PostPosted: 18:27 - 17 Jul 2002    Post subject: Reply with quote
i'm 17 and going to france this summer on my 250. will that be illegal?
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Kickstart
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PostPosted: 21:09 - 17 Jul 2002    Post subject: Reply with quote
Doddmaster wrote:
But the French pigs are pretty cool about speeding... how fast were you going on the Bandit, Keith?? :lol:


Errrmmm, just under 140. Mind you, got a bit paranoid at the next toll both and spent a while doing about 60 before I got there

At a Toulouse toll booth a copper came over, saw the UK numberplate and decided to go and speak to someone who could understand French

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Keith
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feef
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PostPosted: 12:42 - 18 Jul 2002    Post subject: Roads in France Reply with quote
[quote="tin"]https://www.bikerland.co.uk/Info%20&%20Tips/Riding%20Abroad.htm

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French traffic cops can impose on the spot fines for speeding. They can also calculate your average speed through tollbooths and issue a ticket on this evidence alone.


But the whole point of riding in France is the fantastic "National" roads (A-roads) although the "Autoroute" are good for getting you across the country rapidly...

Speed limit on the autoroutes is 130Km (85mph) and speeds of up to 160km isn't That unusual..

while they Can do you for going too fast with the tollbooth info, it's unusual, and you've got to be doing sometihng REALLY mental to encur their wrath..
Take my advice.. Make progress on the autoroute, but also take advantage of the fantastic services.. much better than a "little thief" or the like (at least if you're South of paris, the North East, towards calais is pretty industrial, and the services reflect that... ) then your average speed will be within their limits... and you'll feel better too

the A6 is a fantastic road, heading south from Paris - bordeaux - south.. and it passes near LeMans, so you can always take time out for a blat on the track Smile

BTW, Not speaking french Can help.. it's got some folk I know off with a shout, a finger pointed at the speedo and then wagged, rather than fine...

a note on French M-cycle etiquette.. they seem to wave their foot as a "thankyou" when let thru, and they Wave rather than nod, but the wave is little more than left-hand of the bar, and a wee horizontal movement...

if you hit the Peripherique (the Paris Ring road) at rush hour.. dont be overwhelmed.. just take it easy for a few minutes and a "pack" of bikes will be along shortly... they really DO hunt in packs.. and tacking yourself onto the back of these convoys of Giant scoots, V-max's, dakar reps and streetfighters will see you at your exit in no time...

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Kickstart
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PostPosted: 19:28 - 18 Jul 2002    Post subject: Re: Roads in France Reply with quote
babyblade wrote:

Speed limit on the autoroutes is 130Km (85mph) and speeds of up to 160km isn't That unusual..


I spent a fair amount of time cruising at 160kmh, and still had plenty of things overtaking me. Speed limit is 130kmh in the dry (81mph) and 110kmh in the wet (68mph)

Nice roads and the French riders are dead friendly. What am I still doing in this country with our crap roads and high fuel taxes

All the best

Keith
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Robby
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PostPosted: 16:31 - 19 Jul 2002    Post subject: Reply with quote
you mentioned being 18 to ride bigger bikes. is that just over 125 or what?
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Kickstart
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PostPosted: 18:03 - 19 Jul 2002    Post subject: Reply with quote
Hi

Think so. Best off to check with the AA or RAC

All the best

Keith
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