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adam1985
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PostPosted: 21:01 - 22 Jun 2009    Post subject: scrubbing in tyres Reply with quote

just had new set of tyres fitted to my bike, michelin road pilot 2`s. What advice would you give in running these tyres in?

At the minute i dont feel that confident on them!!
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PostPosted: 21:04 - 22 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depends on how you ride. Take it easy for 50 miles using more lean gradually. On a track, give em a lap and they will be fine Smile
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PostPosted: 21:09 - 22 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

ride like have a turtles head for a few miles then gradually start increasing speed and lean angles. You will 'feel' them when they are ready for full on hoonage. I just took it steady as above for first 45-50miles then they should be good for almost full leanage. A good wind on down your local twisties and you will have forgotten all about your new rubber.
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PostPosted: 21:17 - 22 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

i got new rubber on saturday, was roundabout surfing by sunday. just need to do the left side of the tyre now Thinking
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PostPosted: 21:25 - 22 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

salty21 wrote:
i got new rubber on saturday, was roundabout surfing by sunday. just need to do the left side of the tyre now Thinking


You need to move to France Wink

Seriously though, I just had new Pilot Powers on a few weeks ago and took it easy for the first 25 miles then started riding a little faster. Stuck to dry roads as well until I was more ocnfident.

I think you'd be hard pushed to be riding hard enough to give that rubber any trouble Laughing

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PostPosted: 21:29 - 22 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok sounds good!!

So im to just go out ride slowly to start with then gradually get faster and more lean. My problem is im thinking that if i go lean into a corner that i might just lose the back end as it will still be new!!! And with having the bike leaned over surely there aint any right time with when to lean the bike over.
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PostPosted: 21:40 - 22 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

your tyres will probably feel like rectangles for the first 2 or 3 miles. When they start to feel round again just start riding steadily, smooth and progressivley leaning more and more. Think of the part of the tyre that is scrubbed and the part that isnt. when you lean onto an 'unscrubbed' part you still want to have some contact with a scrubbed part. ie dont ride in a straight line then suddenly throw your bike into a big lean, you will hit 100% unscrubbed rubber and more than likely have a brown trouser moment. Steady as she goes....
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PostPosted: 21:46 - 22 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

what he said^
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PostPosted: 22:57 - 22 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You need to move to France Wink


Think I do also, for some weird reason, I have no problem with sliding off my seat on a left hander, wheras when I attempt to do so on the right, I wobble a bit.
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PostPosted: 08:17 - 23 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

swiftb38 wrote:
your tyres will probably feel like rectangles for the first 2 or 3 miles.


What a load of shit.

swiftb38 wrote:
When they start to feel round again just start riding steadily, smooth and progressivley leaning more and more. Think of the part of the tyre that is scrubbed and the part that isnt. when you lean onto an 'unscrubbed' part you still want to have some contact with a scrubbed part. ie dont ride in a straight line then suddenly throw your bike into a big lean, you will hit 100% unscrubbed rubber and more than likely have a brown trouser moment. Steady as she goes....


Whilst not bad advice, I think people really do get oevr excited about the slippyness of new rubber. If it is dry, the chance of having an issue is very low, IMO, and I doubt that the majority of people on here ride in such a way which could lead to a problem.

Just ride with smoothness in mind, you should be able to lean as far over as you do now pretty much straightaway, as long as you get there progressively.
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PostPosted: 09:23 - 23 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

salty21 wrote:
i got new rubber on saturday, was roundabout surfing by sunday. just need to do the left side of the tyre now Thinking


I have the same problem!
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PostPosted: 09:32 - 23 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

JAMSXR wrote:
salty21 wrote:
i got new rubber on saturday, was roundabout surfing by sunday. just need to do the left side of the tyre now Thinking


I have the same problem!


Ah rookie mistake ... get them to put the tyre on the wrong way round/direction first ... 'surf' that side in, then get them to put it the correct way round and scrub the other side in!! Laughing



As for the OP, as others have said, just build it up gradually, the main thing you need is 'heat' (but then that isn't much difference to normal use) if the tyres are nice and hot, then things will feel comfortable really quickly. This time of year, it shouldn't be to hard to get/keep heat into them!! Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 15:09 - 23 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Damofo D.O.G. wrote:
swiftb38 wrote:
your tyres will probably feel like rectangles for the first 2 or 3 miles.


What a load of shit.


And how do you suppose that then? Im speaking from personal experience and the fact that when I had new tyres fitted for a good couple of mile they felt all over the shot, reluctant to turn, erratic when turning etc. You may have had different experiences, good for you - does that make your opinion fact and others a load of shit?
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PostPosted: 15:18 - 23 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Ah rookie mistake ... get them to put the tyre on the wrong way round/direction first ... 'surf' that side in, then get them to put it the correct way round and scrub the other side in!!


Is that supposed be be humerus.... Laughing

The best option is finding a nice big left hand bend, but unfortunately they are thin and far between round my area, planning to go for a big mission at the weekend so that should sort it.
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PostPosted: 15:49 - 23 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

i have the perfect left hander about half a mile from my house, just nowhere near as confident hanging off to the left.

classic surfers syndrome i suspect Laughing

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PostPosted: 17:59 - 23 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

swiftb38 wrote:
Damofo D.O.G. wrote:

What a load of shit.


And how do you suppose that then? Im speaking from personal experience and the fact that when I had new tyres fitted for a good couple of mile they felt all over the shot, reluctant to turn, erratic when turning etc. You may have had different experiences, good for you - does that make your opinion fact and others a load of shit?


In this case I suggest it does.

When you have new tyres, they have a perfect, brand new profile. At that stage in their life they will be the most responsive in terms of initial turn in, and since their profile is as designed by the manufacturer, will lean progressively and smoothly. This is exactly what I, and thousands of others have felt when riding off with new boots.

In fact what you describe is more akin to heavily worn tyres which have squared off.

I can only suggest that you are imagining it, or incorrectly interpreting the signals the bike is displaying with it's new rubber. I reckon it's all in your head tbh.
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PostPosted: 18:34 - 23 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

salty21 wrote:
i got new rubber on saturday, was roundabout surfing by sunday. just need to do the left side of the tyre now Thinking



I give you "the clover leaf" in Redditch Razz

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Only left handers in a continual loop, so much fun on a nice quiet day!
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PostPosted: 20:24 - 23 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Damofo D.O.G. wrote:

In this case I suggest it does.


That would suggest you're a bit of a narrow minded, arrogant bellend then wouldn't it.
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PostPosted: 20:44 - 23 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

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that looks pretty good!!
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PostPosted: 20:45 - 23 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v98/104/57/513334194/n513334194_73243_8152.jpg

Razz

Or just take it easy, smoothness is the key, no hard braking etc.
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PostPosted: 20:56 - 23 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

T-b0Ne321 wrote:
salty21 wrote:
i got new rubber on saturday, was roundabout surfing by sunday. just need to do the left side of the tyre now Thinking



I give you "the clover leaf" in Redditch Razz

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Only left handers in a continual loop, so much fun on a nice quiet day!


that looks a bit cheeky! Very Happy
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PostPosted: 21:40 - 23 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

swiftb38 wrote:
Damofo D.O.G. wrote:

In this case I suggest it does.


That would suggest you're a bit of a narrow minded, arrogant bellend then wouldn't it.


Subtle, very subtle. Laughing
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PostPosted: 21:43 - 23 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Damofo D.O.G. wrote:
Subtle, very subtle. Laughing


...as a sledgehammer Laughing
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PostPosted: 18:38 - 22 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

swiftb wrote:
ride like have a turtles head for a few miles then gradually start increasing speed and lean angles. You will 'feel' them when they are ready for full on hoonage. I just took it steady as above for first 45-50miles then they should be good for almost full leanage. A good wind on down your local twisties and you will have forgotten all about your new rubber.



just had a new back tyre fitted,, a pirelli diablo,, front is angel with 2k miles on it... and it feels weird not paring up new ones in the last 2 years.. the front feels planted,,and the rear slides around predictably for a new rear...

like the man said,, have a blast around some good twisties,,, but do not test the limits of your tyre too much unless you got a good scrubbed in front to pull you round... and make sure your tyre pressures are spot on,, dont get impatient and mess around with the PSI just to work the tyre carcass better... be patient... be safe.. and when you do have a touching cloth moment with the rear,, and it's scrubbed in,,,you'll save it... and want to do it again!! Very Happy
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