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Chriss
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PostPosted: 11:31 - 26 Jun 2009    Post subject: Is it an offence to park on the pavement? Reply with quote

Hi,

As above really, would it be an offence to park on the pavement, in a large open space, not in the way (next to a car parked on the pavement Laughing ) and would it also be an offence, if I got on the bike, rode it off the pavement by the most direct means, with no pedestrians in sight?

If so, can you name what the offences would also fall under?

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PostPosted: 11:35 - 26 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah it is I believe, my friend mounted the kerb on his bike and got a verbal warning for it from a plod.

I think the limits are up to £1000 fine and a Fixed Penalty Notice.

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Section 34 of the Road Traffic Act:

"34 Prohibition of driving motor vehicles elsewhere than on roads

(1) Subject to the provisions of this section, if without lawful authority a person drives a motor vehicle—

(a) on to or upon any common land, moorland or land of any other description, not being land forming part of a road, or

(b) on any road being a footpath or bridleway,

he is guilty of an offence."

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PostPosted: 19:59 - 26 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Parking in a space that is designed to be not a footway, its hard to explain but infront of some shops you can park. Their windows are viewing area and covered sometimes by glass. Dont take my word for it tho. would hate for you to get a ticket. But im pretty sure, aslong as you have permition.

BUT, as said previously somewhere here, on your tax disc, you clasification is a bicyle. so techically you could park in a bicycle designated area. and if you get a ticket you are kind of right as its taxed as a bicycle.

Thinking

correct me if i am wrong please.
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PostPosted: 20:01 - 26 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, but provided you aren't causing an obstruction many will turn a blind eye to it.
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PostPosted: 20:01 - 26 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

In most places as long as it isnt a danger, or an obstruction they wont mind as long as it isnt on a pay and display road or timed, or whatever.

Doesnt mean to say that you wont get a ticket, all depends where you are, and how bored traffic wardens are
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PostPosted: 20:16 - 26 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

In many London boroughs, the traffic wardens are actually instructed to leave bikes alone. Newham and Redbridge are two of them, and I believe barking and Dagenham have the same policy.

I can put up a list of the more easygoing boroughs, if you like: I've got this guide thing that lists OK places to park the bike in London.
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PostPosted: 20:20 - 26 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are not in london, then you are allowed to park (car too) on pavements that do not cause an obstruction...your car is very likely to be causing an obstruction though.

Theres some business about cover your number plate and they cant remove it which I am not sure if i believe (more importantly its whether the parking wardens beleive it Razz) but again in london, they can remove anything that blocks the number plate.
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PostPosted: 20:27 - 26 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

i park in lincoln on the path (well in a bicyle park which is on the path not obstructing any of the path) and ive seen numerous traffic wardens walk past and not give a ticket so i assumed it was ok if not obstructing the path.

what grounds do they have if you took your tax and numberplate with you ???


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PostPosted: 20:27 - 26 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

yuri2085 wrote:
If you are not in london, then you are allowed to park (car too) on pavements that do not cause an obstruction...your car is very likely to be causing an obstruction though.

Theres some business about cover your number plate and they cant remove it which I am not sure if i believe (more importantly its whether the parking wardens beleive it Razz) but again in london, they can remove anything that blocks the number plate.


they cant look at your number plate if you dont have one....... oh wait i havent thought this through.
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PostPosted: 20:57 - 26 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

davthegreat wrote:
what grounds do they have if you took your tax and numberplate with you ???


Lets see.....

Failure to display a tax disk... Max £200 fine.

Im sure there would also be something about not displaying a reg plate as well...

More likely to come back to find you bike gone.....

If there are any yellow lines on the road side, then parking on the footpath, will get you the same fine as parking on the yellow lines would.
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PostPosted: 21:01 - 26 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whats the law on locking motorbikes to the rails provided for push bikes on pavements?
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PostPosted: 21:02 - 26 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got a parking ticket whilst parked on the pavement one day (in Glasgow).
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PostPosted: 21:28 - 26 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gashead Harry wrote:
Whats the law on locking motorbikes to the rails provided for push bikes on pavements?


like isaid before, tax is bicycle so you using a bicycle area?
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PostPosted: 21:37 - 26 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

were not aloud in bus lanes Shocked Laughing
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PostPosted: 21:39 - 26 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

ThatHornet wrote:
Gashead Harry wrote:
Whats the law on locking motorbikes to the rails provided for push bikes on pavements?


like isaid before, tax is bicycle so you using a bicycle area?


You can't park there. An off duty copper tried telling me off in Chester for doing that. I left it there though. Laughing
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PostPosted: 22:28 - 26 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paulington wrote:
Yeah it is I believe, my friend mounted the kerb on his bike and got a verbal warning for it from a plod.

I think the limits are up to £1000 fine and a Fixed Penalty Notice.

Quote:
Section 34 of the Road Traffic Act:

"34 Prohibition of driving motor vehicles elsewhere than on roads

(1) Subject to the provisions of this section, if without lawful authority a person drives a motor vehicle—

(a) on to or upon any common land, moorland or land of any other description, not being land forming part of a road, or

(b) on any road being a footpath or bridleway,

he is guilty of an offence."


I *think* that there's a clause in law that allows you to drive 10/15 feet off-road to park (the distance is actually specified in that law), providing that you do so directly and purely for the purpose of parking. I happened across it whilst researching traffic law.

I honestly can't remember the details though and when it applies so please don't use it - i'm hoping someone else might remember the details?
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PostPosted: 22:30 - 26 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.motorcycleparking.com/footway_pavement_parking.shtml
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PostPosted: 23:14 - 26 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

flip wrote:
https://www.motorcycleparking.com/footway_pavement_parking.shtml


I think thats what I read before, the stuff about shop windows etc seems to be only referring to London though.
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PostPosted: 09:24 - 27 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

ThatHornet wrote:
Gashead Harry wrote:
Whats the law on locking motorbikes to the rails provided for push bikes on pavements?


like isaid before, tax is bicycle so you using a bicycle area?



Varies from place to place... Do it in York and you will get a ticket.
Lets face it if someone parked a car in a m/bike parking area all hell breaks loose.....

As to the old tax disk chestnut... Does a push bike require taxing or insurance to be on the road ???

Bi-Cycle relates to the fact you are riding a 2 wheeled cycle.

Most push bike signage says Cycles Pedle Cycles....
A m/bike has a totally diffrent pic on all signs.
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PostPosted: 09:59 - 27 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paulington wrote:
Yeah it is I believe, my friend mounted the kerb on his bike and got a verbal warning for it from a plod.


your friend was probably a ped boi trying to run over a granny

does the same rule apply to bikes as it does with cars?
(theres signs saying you can park half on/half off the pavement aswell as fully on the pavement)
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PostPosted: 16:46 - 27 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

in the local city theres an area with loads of concrete balls, sculptures and a few benches around, its an area for old people to sit and rest i think...

but i couldnt find anywhere close enough to the bank to park. i had a 1 piece on so didnt fancy a long hike.

ended up just leaving it smack bang in the middle of the area. was in the bank for about an hour sorting out my accounts and stuff.

came back and there was 2 cops standing at my bike and watching me approach.

heart dropped because i dont have the money to pay a fine.

turns out that they were just bike enthusiasts, ended up having a half hour chat with them about bikes and stuff.

nice guys, i think they were called tony and steven or something like that.

the end... Laughing
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PostPosted: 20:48 - 27 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Re: parking on bicycle racks.

I saw the cops vehicle removal unit lift a bike out of a bicycle stand at St Pauls once. They just pulled up and lifted it with their hiab and a couple of straps.

It might say 'bicycle' on the tax disc but that just means it has two wheels - it's a motor vehicle not a pedal cycle.
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PostPosted: 13:11 - 28 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

£30 fine for riding/driving on a pavement.
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