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PostPosted: 16:39 - 25 Jun 2009    Post subject: Cheap Jap green laner? Reply with quote

As the title says, something late 80's early 90's perhaps?

Looking to pick up something cheap that needs to be road suitable to get to the lanes!

Out of touch with the off road world so all opinions welcome, just looking for suitable model ranges, can do the rest myself!

Kind regards.
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PostPosted: 17:23 - 25 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

You may want to take a look in the 'Offroad' section as there are quite a few threads in there and some current ones on bikes that are being bought and sold.

Sorry, I'm not much more help I'm afraid as my choice was seriously restricted by my size, but there were quite a few good suggestions and details of known problems with some of the bikes once second hand.
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PostPosted: 17:25 - 25 Jun 2009    Post subject: Re: Cheap Jap green laner? Reply with quote

Coxyzxr wrote:
As the title says, something late 80's early 90's perhaps?

Looking to pick up something cheap that needs to be road suitable to get to the lanes!

Out of touch with the off road world so all opinions welcome, just looking for suitable model ranges, can do the rest myself!

Kind regards.


What do you consider 'cheap'?? .. its best just to state a budget ...

Also what sort of 'size' (engine and physical) are you after?

Your looking at about a grand to get something worth getting. You won't find much that actually turns wheels for <£500 ...
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PostPosted: 17:44 - 25 Jun 2009    Post subject: Re: Cheap Jap green laner? Reply with quote

Blue_SV650S wrote:
Coxyzxr wrote:
As the title says, something late 80's early 90's perhaps?

Looking to pick up something cheap that needs to be road suitable to get to the lanes!

Out of touch with the off road world so all opinions welcome, just looking for suitable model ranges, can do the rest myself!

Kind regards.


What do you consider 'cheap'?? .. its best just to state a budget ...

Also what sort of 'size' (engine and physical) are you after?

Your looking at about a grand to get something worth getting. You won't find much that actually turns wheels for <£500 ...


Basket cases are fun. Laughing
<£1000 really. Just checking the market at the moment as I don't actually have any money.

I guess 175 to around 250 cc's gotta be a 4stoke though.
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PostPosted: 18:15 - 25 Jun 2009    Post subject: Re: Cheap Jap green laner? Reply with quote

Coxyzxr wrote:


Basket cases are fun. Laughing
<£1000 really. Just checking the market at the moment as I don't actually have any money.

I guess 175 to around 250 cc's gotta be a 4stoke though.


If you don't mind throwing spanners about then you should be able to get summin form the 90s within your budget.

The Hondas are XR250s
The Suzukis are DR250s (and 350s)
The Yamahas are the TTR250 and XT225 Serow (the serow is supposed to be a good choice for shorties and wenches).
Kawasaki KLR250.

That isn't an exhaustive list, but what cropped up when I was looking (got a KLR in the end and apart from initially thinking it was a bit gutless (had a few teething problems too), love it to bits now I have used it in earnest!! Thumbs Up)

Its all about the condition not age of an offroad bike ... check things like bearings and C&S as they get a real hammering offroad/in the dirt.
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PostPosted: 18:37 - 25 Jun 2009    Post subject: Re: Cheap Jap green laner? Reply with quote

Blue_SV650S wrote:
Coxyzxr wrote:


Basket cases are fun. Laughing
<£1000 really. Just checking the market at the moment as I don't actually have any money.

I guess 175 to around 250 cc's gotta be a 4stoke though.


If you don't mind throwing spanners about then you should be able to get summin form the 90s within your budget.

The Hondas are XR250s
The Suzukis are DR250s (and 350s)
The Yamahas are the TTR250 and XT225 Serow (the serow is supposed to be a good choice for shorties and wenches).
Kawasaki KLR250.

That isn't an exhaustive list, but what cropped up when I was looking (got a KLR in the end and apart from initially thinking it was a bit gutless (had a few teething problems too), love it to bits now I have used it in earnest!! Thumbs Up)

Its all about the condition not age of an offroad bike ... check things like bearings and C&S as they get a real hammering offroad/in the dirt.


No that's perfect exactly what I was after.

Many thanks. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 23:30 - 25 Jun 2009    Post subject: Re: Cheap Jap green laner? Reply with quote

Coxyzxr wrote:

Looking to pick up something cheap that needs to be road suitable to get to the lanes!


Needs to be road suitable to use the lanes too. Something that people tend to forget, conveniently or otherwise, is that true greenlanes are still roads and as such bikes need to have T&T and insurance. Not a dig at you, just pointing it out!
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PostPosted: 14:10 - 26 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you were after a 2 stroke i could of helped you out Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 14:11 - 26 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you were after a 2 stroke i could of helped you out Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 15:09 - 26 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depends what your definition of "entertaining" is really...as a rule, for laning in this country you're prolly better off with a 4T IMO - they're easier to ride, don't have to be kept in the powerband to make the most of them, and will let you get away with a lot more error wise...

They're very flattering, the better choice for a novice rider, but can easily keep up, if not lead the pack, on an average trail ride on our lanes...the only time I can see them struggling is in a full on 3 hour enduro perhaps, though that'd be more down to their weight rather than power output.

Was thinking about going over to the two strokes (I love the sound, smell and powerband), and have ridden a CRM250, Gas Gas 250 and 300 recently, but just couldn't get on with them especially well. Though they were certainly fun, I'm quicker and more comfortable on my TTR250.

Small 4T trailies certainly ain't a pile of wank, they'll do anything a 2T will do without scaring the poop out of ya Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 15:31 - 26 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Out of interest why do you want a 4t?

Some really good 2t bikes about, Alot of people get put off because of the horror storys you hear about RS125's, Mito's ect

something like a DTR, KMX125/200 are really good for G/L and reliable.
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PostPosted: 16:02 - 26 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Imonster is right - 4 strokes are easier to ride and more flattering.

However, I enjoy riding my 2 stroke more than I did my 4 stroke bikes although I think quite a lot of that is down to the lighter weight.

Also, I think the power delivery of the newer strokers is a lot flatter than it used to be and are quite happy to lug like a 4 stroke.

I might be quicker on a 4 but my 2 is more fun for me at the moment.

The only thing I prefer about the 4 stroke at the moment is the longer tank range.
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PostPosted: 15:16 - 28 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

The small 4t are also a bit more sociable ... nothing is going to p1ss locals off more than a gaggle of 2t bikes 'on pipe' ... that and the rancid smell (to them) as you pass dog walkers and hikers .... also if you are keeping a 2t 'on pipe' chances are you are chewing up the terrain a fair bit more than thud thuding along on a 4t ... so a combination of all that is what gets people partitioning for Byway closure!! Thumbs Down

Oh and yes, you can silence a 2t, yes you can unsilence a 4t, but I think most will agree, 2ts are more likely to be noisy than a small* capacity 4t.

My KLR with stock exhaust is in no way antisocial!! Thumbs Up


*some of the big ones are noisy as ... well it is a big old bang in - say a 600cc single!! Wink
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PostPosted: 15:22 - 28 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Could a DR 125 SM handle a wee bit of stick off the tarmac?
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PostPosted: 15:56 - 28 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Harold_Shand wrote:
Could a DR 125 SM handle a wee bit of stick off the tarmac?


I think you need to define what you consider 'a wee bit of stick' Wink

You would probably want to pop some knoblies on it (not sure about size availability for front*), but I see no reason why that wouldn't have handled the sort of stuff I have been doing at least!! Thumbs Up

a1trackdays has a bit 600cc odd KTM ... its a real handful, both on power and to lug/muscle about .. it is even hard to hop on it!! Wink

When you get on the road and want to munch a few miles or get up to motorway speeds, the 600cc job makes a lot of sense, I know I am biased, but I think I had the better (easier to use) offroad bike!

Anyway, after all that waffle, what I am trying to say is the 125 will prolly be more ideal than you realise!! Thumbs Up

*You might be able to get them for the OE size wheel, but if not, you could simply get a big(er) front wheel for it from the trail DR?? Thinking
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PostPosted: 16:01 - 28 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

... kinda anything that an off-road learner would get up to, little humps, fairly high climbs, lanes, bit of thick mud, gravel and plenty of laying horizontal. Just seen some clips on youtube, looks like it would do alright for what I am becoming slightly obsessed about.
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