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Chinaboy
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PostPosted: 18:42 - 29 Jun 2009    Post subject: Tonights Accident!!! Reply with quote

Well, it was going to happen at some point!! Nearly killed, nearly a broken/crushed leg!! Poorly bike

I was on the way home tonight, (I ride 30 miles each way from home to work and vice- versa) I had been following an ambulance with it's blues & twos going. As we approached a roundabout, there were 2 cars in front of the ambulance. The first car (in the very front) sees the lights, hears the siren, and pulls over, the car following, fails to see the ambulance, pulls out to swerve around the stopped car, suddenly sees the ambulance and gets into the very left lane and stops. We are 30 yards from the roundabout at this point. The ambulance and me are in the right hand lane ready to take the 3rd exit. So the ambulance passes the two cars, I am doing about 15mph as I get towards the junction, when the woman in the car (that didn't see the ambulance) suddenly pulls out into my lane and smahes into the side of my bike, just missing my knee by inches. I was just able to manouver to avoid the direct impact.
Anyway, the side fairings of my bike are smashed on the left hand side, luckily I was able to keep the bike up, just or both sides would have had it.
The woman accepted all responsibility, telling me about 20 times that she never saw me...typical!!! The guy in the car she swerved around stopped and wanted to be a witness for me, and he proceeded to give her a right mouthfull lol. She even said that she had not even seen or heard the ambulance!!!!
So all details exchanged now, I have called my insurance company and sorted my end already. Now lets see how long this all takes.

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PostPosted: 18:46 - 29 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glad to hear your OK mate, sounds like it could of been a lot worse.

Good thing is she's admitted it and by the sounds of it you've got a good witness, here's hoping to a swift settlement.

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PostPosted: 19:11 - 29 Jun 2009    Post subject: Re: Tonights Accident!!! Reply with quote

Steve.r wrote:
Well, it was going to happen at some point!! Nearly killed, nearly a broken/crushed leg!! Poorly bike

I was on the way home tonight, (I ride 30 miles each way from home to work and vice- versa) I had been following an ambulance with it's blues & twos going. As we approached a roundabout, there were 2 cars in front of the ambulance. The first car (in the very front) sees the lights, hears the siren, and pulls over, the car following, fails to see the ambulance, pulls out to swerve around the stopped car, suddenly sees the ambulance and gets into the very left lane and stops. We are 30 yards from the roundabout at this point. The ambulance and me are in the right hand lane ready to take the 3rd exit. So the ambulance passes the two cars, I am doing about 15mph as I get towards the junction, when the woman in the car (that didn't see the ambulance) suddenly pulls out into my lane and smahes into the side of my bike, just missing my knee by inches. I was just able to manouver to avoid the direct impact.
Anyway, the side fairings of my bike are smashed on the left hand side, luckily I was able to keep the bike up, just or both sides would have had it.
The woman accepted all responsibility, telling me about 20 times that she never saw me...typical!!! The guy in the car she swerved around stopped and wanted to be a witness for me, and he proceeded to give her a right mouthfull lol. She even said that she had not even seen or heard the ambulance!!!!
So all details exchanged now, I have called my insurance company and sorted my end already. Now lets see how long this all takes.

Steve Shocked


Its good that she's admitted liability, but to be fair to her following an ambulance is a pretty flipping dumb thing to do if you ask me for this very reason.

Don't do it kids!
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PostPosted: 19:22 - 29 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marjay,
You are right, but it wasn't as if I was up it's rear, i just happened to be following it as it approached the roundabout. This was an A road, so very wide, and open. I was only doing about 15mph, I was nearly stopped.
No matter, she should have looked before blindly moving out again.
But I am uninjured, but the bike looks ill. Smile
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PostPosted: 19:23 - 29 Jun 2009    Post subject: Re: Tonights Accident!!! Reply with quote

MarJay wrote:
Steve.r wrote:
Well, it was going to happen at some point!! Nearly killed, nearly a broken/crushed leg!! Poorly bike

I was on the way home tonight, (I ride 30 miles each way from home to work and vice- versa) I had been following an ambulance with it's blues & twos going. As we approached a roundabout, there were 2 cars in front of the ambulance. The first car (in the very front) sees the lights, hears the siren, and pulls over, the car following, fails to see the ambulance, pulls out to swerve around the stopped car, suddenly sees the ambulance and gets into the very left lane and stops. We are 30 yards from the roundabout at this point. The ambulance and me are in the right hand lane ready to take the 3rd exit. So the ambulance passes the two cars, I am doing about 15mph as I get towards the junction, when the woman in the car (that didn't see the ambulance) suddenly pulls out into my lane and smahes into the side of my bike, just missing my knee by inches. I was just able to manouver to avoid the direct impact.
Anyway, the side fairings of my bike are smashed on the left hand side, luckily I was able to keep the bike up, just or both sides would have had it.
The woman accepted all responsibility, telling me about 20 times that she never saw me...typical!!! The guy in the car she swerved around stopped and wanted to be a witness for me, and he proceeded to give her a right mouthfull lol. She even said that she had not even seen or heard the ambulance!!!!
So all details exchanged now, I have called my insurance company and sorted my end already. Now lets see how long this all takes.

Steve Shocked


Its good that she's admitted liability, but to be fair to her following an ambulance is a pretty flipping dumb thing to do if you ask me for this very reason.

Don't do it kids!


Duh, if you happen to be travelling in the same direction as an ambulance what do you? Change your mind and go somewhere else instead?? Can just imagine telling the Mrs " went to the pub instead of coming home as I shouldn't follow ambulances ".....
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PostPosted: 19:31 - 29 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think I know where Marje is coming from. If you are following an ambulance then you can expect the cars that pull over sharpish, to then be likely to just hop back out.
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PostPosted: 19:43 - 29 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

the worst thing is the bike! id hate to have my bike smashed into just as the weather is getting hotter.

fair play to the woman for owning up, what a nice thing to do.

and as for following the ambulance... he said he wasnt up its arse so what could he do?
im sure in that position we would all have been waiting patiently behind it, not expecting an un-observant woman to plough into the side of the bike.

just one of those unfortunate accidents that you have to brush off.

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PostPosted: 19:49 - 29 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steve.r wrote:

But I am uninjured, but the bike looks ill. Smile


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PostPosted: 20:44 - 29 Jun 2009    Post subject: Re: Tonights Accident!!! Reply with quote

uniuk2000 wrote:
Duh, if you happen to be travelling in the same direction as an ambulance what do you? Change your mind and go somewhere else instead?? Can just imagine telling the Mrs " went to the pub instead of coming home as I shouldn't follow ambulances ".....


Well, you have a choice as to pull over to allow the ambulance to pass, and wait in the queue for a moment to allow all the myopic cagers to get back into their usual state of non being, or you can barrel up behind the Ambulance like Moses after the parting of the dead sea, and risk being caught up when the waters flow back into the gap. As our esteemed OP did. If you can't see the danger in that then you are as myopic as our good cager friends.

Don't do it kids.
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PostPosted: 20:48 - 29 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ironically enough, you'd have been safer if you were up the arse of the ambulance - you'd have been long gone by the time the bint had swerved back! Doh!

Glad you're well enough to post. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 20:58 - 29 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Mud'

For reference, I wasn't up the arse of the ambulance,(I already said that) I was in the middle of the right hand lane, and the bint pulled from the far left and smacked me right in the middle, just forward of my knee..

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PostPosted: 21:16 - 29 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry, I fail to see how that "almost killed you" Question

Looks more like a prang Very Happy
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PostPosted: 21:44 - 29 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Luke wrote:
Sorry, I fail to see how that "almost killed you" Question


Standard BCF over reaction. Laughing

Could've been worse than 2 scuffed panels.

Black tape and matt black spray and it'll be right as rain.


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PostPosted: 21:49 - 29 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steve.r wrote:
For reference, I wasn't up the arse of the ambulance,(I already said that)


That was...kinda...my point. Confused

Mudskipper wrote:
you'd have been safer if you were up the arse of the ambulance

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PostPosted: 21:54 - 29 Jun 2009    Post subject: Re: Tonights Accident!!! Reply with quote

MarJay wrote:

following an ambulance is a pretty flipping dumb thing to do if you ask me for this very reason.

Don't do it kids!


+1

Can't even count the amount of times i've seen near misses and actual incidents from "chasers"

People lose all sence of direction, speed or ability to drive when they see blue lights. They panic and move, as soon as the blue lights are in front they stop panicking and resume whatever they were doing before, they don't expect someone to be following the ambulance.

Whether your 5 yards or 50 yards, follow any emergency vehicle and you are putting yourself at risk, just stop wait for it to go and normal traffic to resume - especially when you are a vulnerable road user like a bike.

Pleased to see your not hurt though, similar incidents have ended much worse. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 22:29 - 29 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry I mentioned it now. I wasn't chasing the bloody thing, it was on my way home, on my road that I take every night, doing 15mph as you get ready to stop at a junction is hardly chasing.....is it ?
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PostPosted: 22:47 - 29 Jun 2009    Post subject: Re: Tonights Accident!!! Reply with quote

Steve.r wrote:
I had been following an ambulance with it's blues & twos going. As we approached a roundabout...


This implies you were the greyhound and the ambulance was the rabbit I'm afraid. Sorry if I took what you said the wrong way, but chasing an ambulance in that manner is dangerous. End of.
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PostPosted: 22:56 - 29 Jun 2009    Post subject: Re: Tonights Accident!!! Reply with quote

Steve.r wrote:
I had been following an ambulance with it's blues & twos going.


Doesn't say he was chasing it. Smile

Behind an ambulance may have been better. Laughing
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PostPosted: 23:07 - 29 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steve.r wrote:


No matter how many photos you post the damage won't get any worse. Razz
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PostPosted: 23:19 - 29 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the poor lads defence when i got hit in the side the only real damage was a bent R&G and a snapped off gear lever/footpeg but the damage to me was some badly torn tendons.

Picture whore time. One of the injury and one of the bike.
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PostPosted: 06:23 - 30 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm with MarJay on this one. It sounds just like you were using the path that the ambulance was carving through the traffic to your own advantage. The people who pulled over out of the way were doing that to let the ambulance by, not to let you or a stream of ambulance chasers through to.

I'm not really surprised at the outcome to be honest, although it would have been nice if the woman had seen you and not run into you. But if you really wanted to get technical your manoeuvre could almost be classed as overtaking I reckon, its not as if the cars were parked up at the side of the road - they were part of the traffic at the time.
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PostPosted: 08:21 - 30 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

To be honest Steve.r I'm agreeing with the majority of posts on this thread, you're an idiot for following the ambulance like that. If I'd have been the car who drove into you I'd be making a claim against you for overtaking and attempting to follow an ambulance with its blue's and two's going... Rolling Eyes

It doesn't matter if you were right up its arse or a 100 yards behind it, an ambulance in that state (i.e siren and lights going) isn't a normal part of traffic. Everyone should pull over and then pull back out after it in the same order, therefore you should have waited for the cars to pull back out again instead of risking it.

It's not just you either, when I'm in the car I get fed up with the number of drivers who don't notice an ambulance or police car coming up behind them, and when they finally do they seem to think it's okay to overtake all the other traffic that's pulled over in front of them to let the emergency vehicle pass - just plain bloody selfish and small minded.

Now if you wanna do it properly, you've got to keep well in FRONT of the emergency vehicle for as long as you can, not behind it!! Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: 08:50 - 30 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

flip wrote:
Luke wrote:
Sorry, I fail to see how that "almost killed you" Question


Standard BCF over reaction. Laughing

Could've been worse than 2 scuffed panels.

Black tape and matt black spray and it'll be right as rain.


what the... if you had a repsol fireblade would you put black tape on it and paint it yourself?? id want it in showroom condition Very Happy .

yeah it may only look like a little damage.
but if he hadnt managed to keep upright and keep his leg out the way, he would have fallen off and been ran over.
yeah not died but seriously injured.

if he was following the ambulance on the road at a normal distance (which he was)...

and it was the 2 cars that pulled over out the way (which they did)...

it is the duty of the car to check the roads before they pull back out (which she didnt)...

i suppose the poster was expecting her to see him, unfortunately he was wrong. Laughing
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PostPosted: 09:04 - 30 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I ever let an ambulance by then I expect every muppet on the road to pull back out without looking. Sometimes you get the idiots in their cages who decide to dive out right behind the ambulance so that they can follow it and make some progress.

Glad the OP is OK but it does sound like a fairly predictable one.

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PostPosted: 09:11 - 30 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

the grim reaper wrote:
it does sound like a fairly predictable one.


THAT'S the crux of it. As has been said many a time on BCF, 'poor obs'.

It's a hazard that you should anticipate to protect yourself, same as expecting cars to pull out on you (be prepared to slow/avoid/have an exit route) and expecting a car in a queue to U-turn without indicating while you're filtering (filter more slowly and be prepared to stop).

In each case, yes the cager is in the wrong, but I'd rather pre-empt their stupidity, avoid the fuckwits and keep my bones intact. Karma
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