Restriction of a 600 Bandit

[Mattastic]

Sorry if this is in the wrong forum, please feel free to move it if it is.

With a bit of luck I should be taking my 33hp test late August, early September. Although I'm 23 I do not want to do the direct access just yet, I know people will say that I will waste money as I will want more power but this is the way I want to do it.

It is almost certain that I will be getting a 600 Bandit and having it restricted. Obviously restricting it will alter the way it runs but will it also affect economy? Does anyone know any speed or acceleration figures that I could expect? It's going to seem lightening compared to the GS125 anyway! Also, does restricting harm the bike in anyway as I get the impression it starves the engine in one way or another.
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[Frost]

restricting the bike straves it of fuel. this causes a big drop it the power it will produce.
It is not in any way harmful for the bike, and yes it does save on fuel.

The main issue is the cost of having it restricted then derestricted.
Yes big bikes have more power, but it is controlable. keep the revs low and the gear high and it will be just as fast as your GS.

Personally i wouldnt restrict it, i would just ride slowly and carefully untill i was used to the increase in performance, but its your choice really.

[Mattastic]

Thanks for that! I am torn between not getting it restricted and getting it done but I am weak willed and I would succumb to temptation eventually. My riding skills are still very amateur and I would feel safer knowing that I don't have masses of power through the back wheel. Also, once the restrictors came off then it would be like having a new bike all over again!
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[LustyLew]

If you don't get it restricted then you wount get the certificate and therefore if you get pulled by plod you're in deep sh*t.

I've got my ER5 restricted, but now I have my manuals and a bit more mechanical confidence round my bike,I will consider removing it myself. That way I still keep the certificate.

Also if you aren't behaving like a complete ass on the road and plod pulls you, the only way they'd know it's derestricted is by dismantling it!

Either way mate, its entirely your choice. Although I do remember being highly pee'd off with having to pay £150 to two washers in the carbs! It really could do with being a set price of about £50.

Good luck on whatever you choose!
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[Bendy]

Just remember, by riding it derestricted, you're technically uninsured as you don't have a licence to ride that bike.

I can understand why the youngsters derestrict, but if you're over 21 and can get the correct licence for the bike straight off, I really can't see why you wouldn't just do the right test for the bike and save yourself the cost of restriction and the risk of riding unrestricted.

[iCraig]

[Danny]

As Bendy says, go for DAS. IMO it's silly not to do DAS if your over 21, it will probably be cheaper than going 33bhp and restricting a bike.

Everyone who I have met who is on 33bhp wishes their license was unrestricted.

[iCraig]

[priller]

Do DAS, there's no way I'd have done a restricted test if I was over 21.

The sooner the restrict is over then better. Less than 2 months left on mine.

[LustyLew]

I did the DAS test 3 times and failed 3 times. Due to work and finances I couldn't justify booking 2/3 even 4 days to ride about on a 500 to do the test again. I needed up buying a 125 and practicing on my own. I passed on the 125, but now riding a restricted 500. Although it has crossed my mind to book a day on a full power bike and go for my test again, now that I have more experience on a heavier bike, I feel much more comfortable
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[Bendy]

Thing is, you can train for your unrestricted test yourself on your 125, then just take a couple of hours DAS lessons to get used to the bigger bike and sit the test on it.

There's no reason to do an intensive DAS course if you have a 125, I did one because I didn't have a 125 and it would have been a waste of money to buy one.

I think people get confused between the intensive DAS (cbt, training, test within a week) and just going for your unrestricted test with a few lessons and experience gained by yourself on something smaller with L plates.

[Kickstart]

Hi

Normally they restrict bikes with a washer after the carbs which restricts the air / fuel flow into the engine. In theory it will probably make fuel consumption worse for the same speeds but in practice it will probably be better (as you cannot travel at the speeds where fuel will disappear more quickly).

Expect a top speed of a touch over 100 and probably a 0-60 time of around 6 seconds.

As to DAS, that is what I would recommend. It would almost certainly be cheaper than doing a restricted test and then buying a bike which you would need to splash out £100~£200 to restrict.

All the best

Keith
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[Mattastic]

Thanks for the input guys. I've just been flicking through this weeks MCN and found a training centre in Blackburn called West Pennine who do a three day course for £330. I've asked if they will knock the price of a CBT off as I already have this so hopefully this will bring the cost closer to the £250 mark, or near as damn it a set of restrictors.

Guess I'd be mad not to do it.
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[Bendy]

Good lad.