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Mudskipper
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PostPosted: 11:42 - 10 Jul 2009    Post subject: Urgent help requested - Valve clearance woes!! Reply with quote

I know it's a bit tossy putting urgent in the title, but meh.

I'm trying to do my tappets on the slabby (GSXR750 G [86]) and having undone the valve cover bolts, the cover wont budge. Even with rubber mallet taps. Mad

Now Haynes did not mention these two bolts, are they also vavle cover bolts? I don't want to remove them and then find they hold something else on which has then dropped into my engine Rolling Eyes

There's one either side:
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/super_jo/valvecoverbolt-1.jpg

Remove or no?

Cheers for any help. Thumbs Up
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Kickstart
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PostPosted: 11:49 - 10 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Assuming it is the same as the Bandit you do not need to touch those. They are just blanking bolts for an oilway across the cover.

There are 2 locating dowels which are probably what is holding the cover in place.

All the best

Keith
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Mudskipper
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PostPosted: 11:50 - 10 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Excellent, thank you so much for the quick reply Keith.

Any idea how i can budge the cover? Book of Lies says don't pry it off, obvously to avoid damaging the gasket. It's not moving at all.
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PostPosted: 12:05 - 10 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

In the Bandit manuals it does tell you to remove the 4 bolts (Banjo bolts) that are near the plug wells.

All the best

Keith
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Mudskipper
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PostPosted: 12:09 - 10 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kickstart wrote:
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In the Bandit manuals it does tell you to remove the 4 bolts (Banjo bolts) that are near the plug wells.

All the best

Keith


Ahh, ok. Will they be the ones marked in blue then? Smile

https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/super_jo/valvecoverbolt-2.jpg
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PostPosted: 12:24 - 10 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Yes, they bolt down through the cover into the head.

You can see the threaded holes they go into here:-

https://www.alfa-pages.co.uk/TempPicture/BanditHeadUnderCover.jpg

All the best

Keith
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Mudskipper
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PostPosted: 13:35 - 10 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Excellent, thanks Keith.

I got the cover off easily after removing those bolts. Turned the engine so the cam lobes were in the right position etc.

Started checking the actual clearances, and now have another problem.

How DO I actually adjust them? Confused

It says screw and locknut, yes there's a locknut, but where on earth does the screwdriver go to adjust them?!? It's just a square nobule thingy, there's nowhere to screw!?!

Am I being completely thick? Confused Brick Wall Embarassed Sad

https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/super_jo/valves.jpg
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PostPosted: 13:41 - 10 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

You need a square nobule thing spanner.

Once the locknut is undone, you should be able to twiddle them by hand.

If you need a tool, looks like a bicycle spoke key would fit those nicely. Or a bit of flat bar with a small notch filed into the end.
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PostPosted: 14:08 - 10 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
You need a square nobule thing spanner.

Once the locknut is undone, you should be able to twiddle them by hand.

If you need a tool, looks like a bicycle spoke key would fit those nicely. Or a bit of flat bar with a small notch filed into the end.


You are a legend Sir.

4 down, 12 to go!! Thumbs Up Very Happy
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PostPosted: 14:16 - 10 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Same as the ones on my ybr, you can turn them by hand once lock nut is loose or as i did use an old bike spanner and file or grind a little groove into it. But to be honest finger tight or a slight turn with pliers will do it, it doesnt take much really.

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PostPosted: 14:34 - 10 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Stinkwheel has answered you well, but just a triffle concerned that the nearest valve in the picture appears to already have the locknut undone.

All the best

Keith
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Mudskipper
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PostPosted: 16:43 - 10 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kickstart wrote:
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Stinkwheel has answered you well, but just a triffle concerned that the nearest valve in the picture appears to already have the locknut undone.

All the best

Keith


Don't worry, that's the first one I undid and then was stumped as to how I turned the screw.

(I know the cam lobe for those two valves is set wrong for checking - I realised this halfway through, so had to re-do them all! Laughing )
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PostPosted: 15:21 - 11 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Job gets a lot easier if you have a set of these...

Clicky.

https://www.mandp.co.uk/netalogue/photos/large/500607.jpg
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PostPosted: 07:46 - 13 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

sickpup wrote:
Job gets a lot easier if you have a set of these...

Clicky.

https://www.mandp.co.uk/netalogue/photos/large/500607.jpg


Awsome,Sickpup will these cover a large range of bikes?.

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stinkwheel
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PostPosted: 09:04 - 13 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm almost totally certain you couldn't use them on a large number of older, aircooled kawasakis which have the followers built into the rocker box and little round tappet inspection covers. Not sure how many other bikes were made to a similar design.

You can JUST get an open spanner on the locknuts on the girlfriends GPz305 and turn it one flat at a time, reversing the spanner between flats.
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