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Scouse
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PostPosted: 13:36 - 11 Jul 2009    Post subject: Has the 2WD R1 been discussed yet? Reply with quote

I can't see it anywhere... Confused

Here's the vid anyhow - https://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/News/newsresults/videos/2009/July/jul0709-video-two-wheel-drive-yamaha-r1-ridden/?&R=EPI-116537

Looks cool but I imagine could be a costly thing to do.
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PostPosted: 14:00 - 11 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Haven't seen it mentioned on here.

I read it in the supermarket and watched the video on thier website.

Looks very interesting. Could it be the next evolution of motorcycles?
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PostPosted: 14:09 - 11 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

If power delivery spread between 2 wheels will mean that it will be hard or not possible to wheelie it then this sucks
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PostPosted: 14:21 - 11 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big four have dabbled with awd back in the days, nothing really came to fruition.

Apparently the ohlins design is quite nicely refined way of going about it but can't see it having any practical application outside of specific uses or concept marketting bs.
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PostPosted: 14:59 - 11 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

The trouble with 2WD on bikes is you either need to drive the front wheel by hydraulics or an electric motor. If you saw the size of hydraulic pipes/motor you need just provide just 20HP you'd realise how much weight you'd be adding to the front of the bike, then you'd also need a pump and a reservoir and a cooler.
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PostPosted: 17:07 - 11 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

its a nice idea like but unless you can make it light weight and not an eyesore then its pointless.
looking at the video on MCN it doesnt look too bad. But i wonder how much hp they are getting through the front compared to the back and what difference there would be in handling.
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PostPosted: 17:57 - 11 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess changing rear sprocket ratios from the ratios they are now could prove interesting!! Laughing
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PostPosted: 18:10 - 11 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well done to MCN to bring us 'news' that is about five years old. As I recall Yamaha came out with that very R1 a few years back but said the front end was too heavy for an ultimate performance gain. They built the bike as an excercise because they had been trying out 2wd off roaders (where a real advantage lies).

Yamaha being Ohlins's parent company obviously passed the bike on to them for 'improvement'. Well done Ohlins you look like you've 'improved' it by adding gold paint to some of the parts!

MCN D- could do better

Ohlins C- could do better

Yamaha C- could do better by letting Ohlins get on with what they are good at.
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PostPosted: 18:42 - 11 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just to add:

As I recall, the system only puts about 30% of the bikes power to the front wheel, and only when required. The requirement is defined by the rear wheel slippage, so wheelying would put power to the front wheel, or the rear wheel sliding. A bit like a traction control system on a car. In fact, some cars have a very similar system. The Audi R8 for one, and the Skyline/GTR for another.
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PostPosted: 19:57 - 11 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarJay wrote:

MCN D- could do better

Ohlins C- could do better

Yamaha C- could do better by letting Ohlins get on with what they are good at.


So in Theory if I had made it onto that scoreboard I would of made an A for bringing up an old subject that isn't a re-post. Thumbs Up Wink

Oh well, made me giggle when the guy spoke about the 'hoozez' leading to the 'murtar' Laughing
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PostPosted: 15:25 - 12 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yarri wrote:
If power delivery spread between 2 wheels will mean that it will be hard or not possible to wheelie it then this sucks


Did you watch the video? It does wheelies ... and why wouldn't it?
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