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garth
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PostPosted: 14:06 - 13 Jul 2009    Post subject: Anyone own a Fazer? Reply with quote

Hi

Looking at the early 600 Fazers. Ideally I'd like to swap for my SM.

Anyone own one? Opinions? I want a road bike. Got on well with my old 600 Bandit, and have ridden an xj600n and 1200 bandit etc. Want something that is capable of taking me, luggage and possibly a pillion aswell as commuting duties and general riding.

Prices seem ok, and I've heard good reviews.

Thanks.
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PostPosted: 14:17 - 13 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kitty Kat owns one.




Kid in the office has an '04 model, but isnt a particularly fast rider. Swears by it and enjoys it though.

(On 33bhp though)

If you're looking at the older model, I would imagine its your standard 600 IL4 commuter, nothing particular exciting but reliable as owt, and fairly easy servicing.

You looking for smooth, every day nature or just something that does the job?
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PostPosted: 14:20 - 13 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

i used to own one. tbh they sound perfect for what you want,
though the headlights are crap (though there are mods that can be done) you end up riding by streetlights.

best mods i did to mine were an carbon can exhaust and some renthal bars plus a double bubble screen, that stopped the shoulder cramp i got on the motorway.

oddly enough i traded it in for my 950SM because whilst accomplished it just didn't thrill me like i needed it to.

though may regret the decision next week when i'm doing 4 days in a row of ~300 miles
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PostPosted: 14:27 - 13 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Road riding doesn't excite me TBH, I just want something I can hop on and ride all day. I rode to Snett and back on a 1200 bandit about a month ago, and I was fine. I don't fancy doing that on my SM.
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PostPosted: 14:50 - 13 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Current edition (August) of RiDE magazine has a long article / 'buyers guide' about the original model fazers (FZS600 98-2001 I think). I just sold mine. I was actually asked for my opinions for that article (because I filled out their 'Rider Power' survey last year - they must have e-mailed all fazer owners). PM me if you want my mini-essay on my one! Or I could post it here?

I highly rate it as an all-round bike. A reliable, comfortable commuter if you need it, but quick, focussed and powerful enough for fun if you want to push it. RiDE slags the suspension, and I suppose I can't disagree, but it never really bothered me either.

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(oh and I've got a C70 as well!)
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PostPosted: 14:57 - 13 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Post it here!
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PostPosted: 15:48 - 13 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

garth wrote:
Post it here!

Okey-dokey:

I crashed a VFR800 in the past, so my girlfriend made me get a smaller bike (I bought a CB250RS). After a while I yearned after a bigger bike again. So I bought the Fazer. I mainly used it for a 40 mile commute, as well as the odd weekend jaunt, and a couple of longer trips to see friends down south.

I found it a very good all-round bike. Mine had bar risers on which made for a comfy commute (the original screen was fine for me but I'm only 5'10''), and when riding in sporty mode I would have preferred a slightly more leant forward body position, so the original bar position must be an even better all-round, if you see what I mean. I serviced it myself so I can't comment on servicing costs, but it is mostly easy to work on. Centre-stand is handy (on any bike in this regard). However, the carb balancing screws are a pig to get at, and the front brake calipers need a lot of maintenance to stop binding when used throughout the winter. It had a rear hugger, and a fenda-extenda. During previous ownership the exhaust downpipes and collector had rusted through, so I put a stainless system on it (with the original end can). I also had a Renntec rack on the back, and a Givi box, which was invaluable and didn't affect handling. The suspension was not very communicative, which didn't lend itself to confidence, but was comfy.

The engine never let me down once (except when I left it and battery ran down) winter or summer. The radiator did develop leaks but I think that was from lack of care over the winter. I applied anti-corrosion spray (ACF50) over winter and this kept rust largely at bay, but it was never meant to be a clean or cosmetically tidy bike for me. It was mostly a work horse which I got very fond of. I also came off on the B roads on a corner on gravel, but the bike withstood it well: bent headlight bracket (bent back into shape fine), one new mirror, and cracked fairing (beautifully 'repaired' with gaffer tape - see picture!) and that was all (indicators were fine - and I rode the bike home). I did appreciate the power characteristics of the engine: on the commute, I'd stay below 7000 rpm and the power was there to cruise to work, if I wanted to push it I'd tuck in a bit and rev higher, change gear later, and discover a much more responsive, sporty engine. I suppose if you wanted to find fault it was quite lumpy and unresponsive below 5000 odd rpm. But still quite a lot of torque / acceleration left between 100 and 120mph (on the Autobahn, I'm told, occifer). I got about 40-45 mpg.

The bike had newish Pirelli Diablo's on it when I bought the bike which were great sticky tyres, but I squared them off a little on the commute (so not that suited) and they wore out after 4000 miles (which doesn't sound that bad - but they did squirm in a terrifying way in the wet at the end of their life!). I then went for cheaper Maxxis Supermaxx which were actually good all-round but did not offer quite as much grip wet or dry.

I did two longish trips (Norwich to London and back, Norwich to Brighton and back (after that snowy patch last year - cold and nervy!). Quite a comfortable seat, but reaching the end of my bum tolerance after about 120 miles with no breaks. Wind protection on motorways was OK, not amazing but adequate, and you could find the 'bubble' if you bent down behind the screen (I didn't pretend to be a missile - honest). Tank bag obscures the dials, but I suppose that's obvious. Two large luggage hooks above pillion pegs are handy.
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PostPosted: 20:06 - 13 Jul 2009    Post subject: I've got a 1998 FZS600 Reply with quote

It's my first bike and I love it, Very Happy
I have to agree with hedjehogs "essay" lol,
I've only had it a couple of months but it really is a fun ride, as has been said though....lights are crap...I haven't attempted the mod yet, but will probably do it in the end.

mines a bit tatty been used as an all year round work horse by previous owners, but I love it to bits,

P.S. whats an "SM"

and P.P.S. hedjehog, are you in norfolk??
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PostPosted: 20:20 - 13 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Supermoto.

Found a black one for sale near me, may have a peekaboo tomorrow.
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PostPosted: 20:31 - 13 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

garth wrote:
Supermoto.

Found a black one for sale near me, may have a peekaboo tomorrow.

Buy it an be in love with it forever, they look the best, and they are an exellent all rounder.
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PostPosted: 20:52 - 13 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

garth wrote:
Supermoto.

Found a black one for sale near me, may have a peekaboo tomorrow.


Ahhh !! supermoto....... Embarassed sorry didn't realise..lol

yeah mines black as you can see by my avitar, I really love it, it's old and tatty (like me)Laughing but loads of fun to ride

I don't clean it much because I'm too busy riding it.

mines got a scorpion can on it and it sounds great especially at 7000rpm and above Mr. Green

It's no sport bike, but it's alot quicker than I thought it would be, definitely take a peek at the local one......maybe test ride it......let us know what you think Thumbs Up


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PostPosted: 20:53 - 13 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

ive got a lovely Laughing sick colour gold one at the minute on my commuting duties. does the job just fine, its actually quite pokey for a commuter when you get it going. i get around 55mpg too, which for a 600 il4 i think is quite good.
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PostPosted: 20:58 - 13 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keir_K3 wrote:
ive got a lovely Laughing sick colour gold one at the minute on my commuting duties. does the job just fine, its actually quite pokey for a commuter when you get it going. i get around 55mpg too, which for a 600 il4 i think is quite good.


mines done 40,000 miles and I get around 50mpg, not bad I guess, I got it for the fun of riding and to learn on as it's my first "big bike"
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PostPosted: 21:52 - 13 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

crackfinder if you are going to do the light "mod" don't do the quick way (1 wire between the connector blocks) ( as this can fry the loom.

(i can't remember the correct way off the top of me head but if you look on FOC-U you'll find it)
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PostPosted: 22:16 - 13 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

DaveJPS wrote:
crackfinder if you are going to do the light "mod" don't do the quick way (1 wire between the connector blocks) ( as this can fry the loom.

(i can't remember the correct way off the top of me head but if you look on FOC-U you'll find it)


Cheers Dave, as it happens I am a FOC er Laughing

got the light mod details in my favourites, its the correct way, the one where you cut and connect a wire under the tank Very Happy ,
I keep threatening to do it........just can't be arsed.....lol....guess I'll get around to it eventually, probably when the nights pull in and I realise how shite the headlights really are Wink

are you a "FOC er" ?
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PostPosted: 22:21 - 13 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

i dabbled a year or two ago, found it useful for mods (and bought an exhaust second hand), but didn't stay as it didn't have that many great (funny) threads and i sold the fazer about a year ago.
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PostPosted: 06:30 - 14 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I own a Mk1 fazer, as said, crap lights, there are mods available to improve them although I haven't bothered.
I have done over 59000 miles on mine in just under 3 years, I have thrown camping gear on it and been to Scotland, Norfolk, Cornwall, Dorset, East Coast on it. The only time I have to stop is for fuel or food, and with a 19 litre tank I get about 200 miles before I need to refuel. It is the most reliable bike I have ever owned, only needing consumables replacing. I have never had to start it using choke, even on the coldest days and it always starts first time.
I can travel through towns at 30mph, hoon it along the lanes, sit for hours on motorway, basically it does what is says on the packaging.
I have never had a complaint from pillions about it being uncomfortable.
I get about 14000 out of a rear tyre and I am running Bridgestone BT021 on it
At almost 71500 miles on the clock it still sounds as sweet as some of the newer fazers.


I wouldn't hesitate in recommending one for what you want a bike to do.
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