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Mudskipper
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PostPosted: 10:33 - 02 Jul 2009    Post subject: Police dogs die in hot car Reply with quote
I was reading a story only yesterday where the Scottish RSPCA were reminding people not to leave dogs in cars in hot weather, even for a short time.

I thought, what kind of fucking idiot still does that these days?

Answer - these fucking idiots. Evil or Very Mad
https://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/nottinghamshire/8129826.stm

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Two police dogs have died in a hot vehicle parked outside the headquarters of Nottinghamshire Police.

An RSPCA officer was called to the Sherwood Lodge headquarters in Arnold on Tuesday and found two German shepherd dogs dead.

An independent vet is carrying out post-mortem tests to establish how the animals died.

The incident has been voluntarily referred to the Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC).

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PostPosted: 11:12 - 02 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
Given that assaulting a police officer is treated as a serious offence and treated more seriously than assaulting a member of the police, presumably killing a police officer would be treated as an even more serious offence?

So whoever left the dogs in the car needs to be charged with something along the lines of killing an officer of the law.

Chances are it'll turn out something along the lines of the officers responsible being untraceable or some crap like that. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 12:17 - 02 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
If it were two dogs belonging to a private citizen, prosecution would certainly follow...

I wonder...

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PostPosted: 12:22 - 02 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ste wrote:
Given that assaulting a police officer is treated as a serious offence and treated more seriously than assaulting a member of the police, presumably killing a police officer would be treated as an even more serious offence?

So whoever left the dogs in the car needs to be charged with something along the lines of killing an officer of the law.

Chances are it'll turn out something along the lines of the officers responsible being untraceable or some crap like that. Rolling Eyes


Dude, seriously, it's not as if they pay the dogs wages, give them final salary pensions and critical illness cover, they don't sign contracts, they don't carry badges. They're dogs...... The fact they're police dogs shouldn't distinguish or differentiate them or this incident over and above any other dog

Agree with you on the last point, though, I doubt anything will come of it.

Very sad, either way
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PostPosted: 20:08 - 02 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
owning a German Shepherd Dog myself, I feel quite strongly about this.

The officer involved should receive 6 months in the slammer. There he will be used as a wheelbarrow and justice will be served.
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PostPosted: 00:16 - 03 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ste wrote:
Given that assaulting a police officer is treated as a serious offence and treated more seriously than assaulting a member of the police,


Assault PC is a summary offence with the same tariff as common assault - when I was working in the courts many moons ago the CPS always dropped it in exchange for a guilty plea for the substantive offence, so it's treated LESS seriously than assaulting an member of the public.


The guy/gal is still an idiot for leaving them in there though - apparently the nick they were parked outside was one equipped with pukka kennels too, so no excuse.
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PostPosted: 06:18 - 03 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
At 22 degrees the inside of a car ,even with the windows wound down a few inches, would hit 47 degrees within 8 minutes.
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to realise that anyone would suffer in that heat.
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PostPosted: 09:45 - 03 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
So how much does it cost to train those animals?
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The irony of this is that if Nottingham constabulary get charged and fined £2,000 for the offence, guess who ultimately pays the £2,000 and all the legal expenses?

Are police dog handlers not responsible for the care of their dogs? Investigation and disciplinary action is certainly required.
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cestrian wrote:
So how much does it cost to train those animals?


According to the news yesterday, £7000
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PostPosted: 22:17 - 03 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
The other thing is, it was parked outside a main police station so many cops coming and going should have noticed that the dogs were in distress and done something. Or even simply noticed that dogs shouldn't be left in a parked car on a hot day.

If the car had been parked up a side street not in full view, it would be more forgiveable.
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Poor dog Crying or Very sad One of my neighbours sons I noticed took his dogs up the other day in the boot of the car, seen them going and assumed t he back seat was down or the top shelf off and it wasnt and it was hot! Evil or Very Mad

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PostPosted: 15:31 - 04 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
colin1 wrote:
The other thing is, it was parked outside a main police station so many cops coming and going should have noticed that the dogs were in distress and done something. Or even simply noticed that dogs shouldn't be left in a parked car on a hot day.


Most police dog vans that I've seen have limited visibility into the back if the doors are closed.

As is much bemoaned by the dimmer sections of the media, the police mostly patrol in vehicles, and thus would not have been walking past said van - but driving past in a car.
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PostPosted: 08:58 - 05 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
yes. probably for a quickie with a WPC
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PostPosted: 11:15 - 11 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
arry wrote:
cestrian wrote:
So how much does it cost to train those animals?


According to the news yesterday, £7000


Right, so the culprit gets £14000 removed from their wages. I think that's fair.
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PostPosted: 13:25 - 11 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
Mmmmmmmmmmmmm......

Hot dogs. Drooling
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PostPosted: 11:48 - 13 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
Doug97 wrote:

Right, so the culprit gets £14000 removed from their wages. I think that's fair.


Well, to be fair one of the dogs was apparently about to be retired so he'd done his "stint" if you like.

£14k and a good kicking should do the trick
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PostPosted: 16:31 - 14 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
They're just hypocrites. It really annoys me how every summer the police are everywhere with the dogs die in hot cars message,quite rightly too. But like you say,if it was one of us who had left our dogs in a hot car,it would be a very different story. The officer that did it should have a prison sentence,the tosser. There's my ten pence Laughing

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deepfriedmarsbar wrote:
They're just hypocrites.


"They're" is probably a bit strong. Don't tar the whole force with one person's actions. It's not like there's a dozen incidents behind this or anything. One poor decision by one officer doesn't make a whole police force at fault - try to keep a sense of perspective
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PostPosted: 00:18 - 15 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
arry wrote:


Dude, seriously, it's not as if they pay the dogs wages, give them final salary pensions and critical illness cover, they don't sign contracts, they don't carry badges. They're dogs...... The fact they're police dogs shouldn't distinguish or differentiate them or this incident over and above any other dog


Throw a brick at a sniffer dog and see what happens.
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PostPosted: 11:25 - 15 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Throw a brick at a sniffer dog and see what happens.


Well I'd rather not engage in animal cruelty if it's all the same to you Wink
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PostPosted: 15:20 - 17 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
I think the officer involved should get fined whatever the tax payer loses so £7k or £14k or whatever.

Should be fired as well.


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Mmmmmmmmmmmmm......

Hot dogs. Drooling


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PostPosted: 11:51 - 21 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
https://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/nottinghamshire/8160753.stm

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Police to face dog death charges

A police officer is to face prosecution over the deaths of two police dogs in Nottinghamshire, BBC News has learned.

The German shepherd dogs were found dead in a private vehicle outside Nottinghamshire Police's headquarters on 30 June.

Legal proceedings will be brought against an officer for allegedly causing unnecessary suffering to the animals, the RSPCA confirmed.

Nottinghamshire Police confirmed the officer has been suspended.

A police spokesperson said: "Following a review of the circumstances into the deaths of two police dogs, Nottinghamshire Police has taken the decision to suspend the police officer involved.

"An internal inquiry is also continuing."

The Met Office said it reached 28.1C (82.5F) in Nottingham on 30 June.

The RSPCA has said the force reported the incident to them on the day it happened and had co-operated with the charity in the investigation.

Anyone convicted of causing unnecessary suffering to an animal could face up to six months in prison and a £20,000 fine.


Lets hope for the maximum.
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PostPosted: 22:45 - 21 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
Mudskipper wrote:

Lets hope for the maximum.


One assumes you mean after we hear the facts, and they confirm that it was avoidable negligence, and solely the officer's fault?
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