Finders keepers?

[The Shaggy D.A.]

Just saw this on the news. Basically, a woman bought a lottery ticket, lost it, another woman found it, and the numbers came up, winning £30,000.

https://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/8129534.stm

They spent £15k, and then the police tracked them down. A judge has ruled they should pay the "owner" the remaining £15k. The "owner", still not happy with this, now wants to sue Camelot.

For fuck's sake, if you lose a ticket, you lose a ticket, you stupid cow.
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[Hetzer]

The pair of scum who found it and spent half the amount need a public flogging. Fvcking vermin. I bet they'd be singing a different fvcking tune if they'd lost a ticket and somebody else found and spent it.
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[Harold_Shand]

Tough shit in my book.

Law of the jungle.
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Harold_Shand's theory might be the best explanation.

[yuri2085]

I agree with hetzer.

Its otherwise known as 'theft by finding' which is against the law.

[Dragonfly]

Personally if I had of lost a lottery ticket and someone had of given it back to me I would have given them some of the winnings .
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[hellkat]

There's a very funny book by a guy, name of Carl Hiaasen, called Lucky You which is on this very subject, about two crooks who get their hands on a lottery ticket that doesn't belong to them. Its EXTREMELY funny, with lots of odd little strands to it.

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[Dragonfly]

They will get loads of bad karma like Earl did.
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[Hetzer]

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No idea why she is trying to sue Camelot and pretty sure she won't get away with it either. The robbing bastards that 'stole' the money should be forced to repay back the £15k they stole.

What a shitty society we live in if we all share the opinion of finders keepers.

[The Original Muzza]

Lottery tickets don't have names on them.
Wallets have id.
Lottery tickets will typically be left unclaimed until expiry.
Wallets will be typically left in lost and found until the owner registers their losing on the database.

A reasonable man who finds a winning lottery ticket and thinks "The owner of this will be able to track it down" has an above average knowledge of the system. Anyone who has this realisation and trust the relevant authority to return it to it's rightful owner would usually be considered naive (but in this case, right).

I'm with the judge on this one. The law of the "Reasonable man" really does apply to this one.
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[Harold_Shand]

I have found a wallet and kept the AU$300 that was in it. I've found £30 in a park in dribs and drabs. If I found a winning lotto ticket, I would cash it and I would blame no one for doing the same to me. Coming by free money in any way is a gift from God. Hallejulah.
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Harold_Shand's theory might be the best explanation.

[Wafer_Thin_Ham]

If you see the person drop it then I would give it back. Otherwise I would keep it. Yes I would expect someone to do the same to me.
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[yuri2085]

I smell filth.

[Dragonfly]

I am just throwing this in here I aint on any ones side.

what if I won the lotto and someone claimed that was their ticket I had?
I have no proof I bought this ticket and nore does the other person.
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[yuri2085]

But they dont know how much they are going to take in at the start of the week and they dont bother changing the estimated total.

[Phoenix]

I fail to see how the person who found it and used it is a thief. It's been maybe 8 or 9 years since I played the lottery, but if you pay for your ticket with a pound coin then there is absolutely nothing connecting you to that ticket, i'm not even sure if you paid by card there would be. Therefore if you lose it there is no way to track the original owner so whoever finds it keeps it, simple.

If I found it, I'd keep it and use it.

[Stelmer]

If I loose something i'm mature enough to admit that I messed up and lost it thus having to pay the consequences.

I was bought up to respect my things and look after them. If I broke or lost them, tough luck. Same with a lottery ticket. If I lost it, i'd be annoyed but would dismiss it as I would not remember the numbers.

If someone else finds it, it's their gain. Possession is 9/10th's of the law. I've lost wallets before. 2 of them. Both had cards and cash in them which I wrote off and forgot about once I was paid at the end of the month.

If I found a wallet or saw someone drop something, i'd track them down and personally give it them.

[hellkat]

If the same principal were applied to a scratch card, nobody would make a fuss.

Say you bought a scratch card, same thing: just for a quid.

And you didnt scratch it there and then, but thought "I'll do that later" ... then unwittingly dropped it. You'd never know what it might have inside, but what if it had, like, some mega prize.

You'd never know.

I dunno what the biggest prize on a scratch card is, but most people would accept that as a "shit happens" thing.
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[Hetzer]

[colin1]

The people finding it had no way of finding the owner, and understandably thought finders keepers.

Not only should they pay back the £15k they havn't spent, they should pay back the £15k they owe that they spent.

I think they should sell some stuff to raise cash to pay back a big chunk of it, and the rest on installments with interest.

Stupid judge.

He wouldnt let a burglar keep half of his loot, so why let the finders keep half of theirs ?
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