Immigrants, drug addicts, alcoholics ROOL OK!

[tykey]

If you're an immigrant and even more so a drug or booze addict you get a roof, drug/booze money and all the free time in the world.

Seems to be that way

I grew up with a balanced view of things, my parents were very liberal, ive been friends with people from several countries... indeed my best friend of over 10 years is of Indian origin.

So my following opinion is not due to preconceived idea's or prejudices.

Newest example of why i think this state system in this country is fucked up.

I work doing IT support, not bad money. I "own" my flat, have a car & bike, no addictions.
Above me about 1 month ago moved in a chap, he's been nothing but trouble. Threatening the other owners tenants, police, damage, etc etc etc.

His flat is the same as mine, he must have plenty of spare cash as he's in the pub noon till closing time EVERYDAY.

His illness? Beer. LOL.

So if i get pissed all day everyday i can live to the same standard i live now and not have to work for it.

This country is a fucking joke. I'm seeing more and more of this around where i live i.e. addicts homed in decent area's everything paid for. To be fair i'd prefer 100 immigrant scroungers to 1 of these tossers.... funny i've never seen an immigrant addict, only brits.

Fuck this country

[tykey]

some facts n figures... 3 years out of date so almost certainly worse now.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1531201/100000-drug-addicts-and-alcoholics-on-benefits.html

NEW LABOUR

[ash t]

Its a joke isnt it! This country such a waste of time.

I myself work in a bank, and seeing alot of people who are benefits come in. One woman, no less than 5 kids, taking single mothers allowance, she gets £450 p/w paid to her per week. Thats to cover her living needs, as her council house, and bills are paid for!

What did disturb me about her once was the fact she wanted to move to blackpool. She was willing to go there, (without a house set up), and camp out on the streets in blackpool until the council agreed she was homeless and would give her a house.

She didnt go in the end, I think the fact she had a 6 month old baby put her off sleeping on a pavement in a tent.

If they are capable of work, they should work for their income! I do, my wife does, my grandparents only get their pension from working there arses off all their lives...
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[tykey]

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[thegubner]

Its not always sorted by people going to work though, i have an 18 month old daughter and my missus and i both work. So we dont get benefits for unemployment or job seekers or whatever its called.

We do recieve about 180 a week though, to give on to our daughters nursery. Neither of us could work without this payment, it equals my weekly wage and exceeds the missus'

Whats the difference between taking money sat at home, or taking money to go to work?

They did however offer us 16 and a half quid a month housing benefit though. Gee thanks. Its not even worth the hassle of filling out the forms.

[tykey]

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[Mister James]

As does anyone who says 'end of'.

[B10Hazard]

That was a pointless comment
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[Banned]

well then,

from the way i feel after a skinfull i need days to recover just as your liver needs around the same to recuperate, losing yourself in alcohol daily and getting sirosis of the liver and such like is a very sad existance, whether it be with 20 quid a week more or not.

there is a multitude of people without the self induced problems of addiction claiming whilst working etc, especially in the ethnic community with thousands with the same name and working in shops etc. im not racist attall but they have long gone past selling their micras to poor white folk for good mpg and tax while they are in their mercs, kids at private school and renting houses out to family and friends who are claiming the highest rate of housing benefit above what most pay or dont pay for their flats etc babys in toe.

The fruits of their labour are in most cases born out of hard work for many years.

As for smack heads if you have come accross many they like the alcys are very disturbed and desperate and proberly wont reach pension age.

tally this with bogus arranged marriage false asilum and jumping housing lists, and then the polish who have begun to jump the sinking ship.

Wembley the dome and the expenses, little jon said a few years back were all going to hell on a handcart,

human rights , every one has a right to live, its just many dont have a right to be born, bring on the gene mapp and ban the fers from producing the inept f wits in the first place.

rant over

steve

[Phoenix]

It's votes isn't it, the more people they support using the taxes of the working, the more guaranteed votes they have as they won't want to lose their benefits by voting in an anti leech parliament, all a big game to them.

Apparently when new housing is built now (private housing estates included) a percentage has to be turned over to provide for social housing, ie the sort mentioned above. So you get a big development of expensive homes, someones going to get one for free. I think if they limit how many houses they build or do it in stages they can avoid it, but for big developments it's unavoidable, can't escape the lice no matter where you live.

[Banned]

THEY MOSTLY DONT VOTE caps i guarantee that..

steve

[the grim reaper]

I don't disagree with the state providing a roof over their heads, having millions more homeless people would not improve our quality of life and opportunistic crime would skyrocket as a result.

What I do disagree with is the state paying cash into their bank accounts, they can then spend this in any way they like, often neglecting children and buying drink and cigarettes instead. I believe they should be given food vouchers, redeemable at the local supermarket, to give them an acceptable standard of living. After all, most supermarkets do clothes as well now.

The other worry for me is that the only way for the chavs to get more money is to have more kids, which means more chavs and so we go on until the country is one big stinking chav hole.

Cheers

Grim
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[Banned]

the food vouvher sounds like a good idea but they would just sell them at a loss to anyone or wait outside stores to do the same, and it would cost to produce them aswell. good thought mind.

my cousin works for emaues charity and they run a large home where all the residents with the aforementioned issues dont get their benifeit but recieve around 30 pounds a week to sepnd.

steve

[Mister James]

[Banned]

yes i was thinking the vouchers would have to be a bit like tender asto not allow easy copying / forgery.

steve

[warped one]

I think I fit 2 of those catagories but NO more I am young (19) and I drink quite regularly, but that is where the similarities stop.

The day I left school I was on the phone to all the companies and asking for a job. Now 19 I can safely say that I have earnt my bike and life.
A few years ago my dad came out of work and I watched him turn from a fun guy to a depressive shell of what he was. Why?

He has earnt everything my family has. And takes pride in that.

Scrongers make me sick.
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[warped one]

Sorry for double posting on PSP.

They make me sick to the point of actually hitting an old mate for bragging that I was 'buying his drinks and there was nothing I could do about it'

Living in chav capital Grimsby. I see alot of these filth and I am a firm beleiver in these scum should do menial tasks for their next giro.

Warped
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[tykey]

good to read that so many of you broadly agree!

a little result for me today, ive got home from work to find out the wanker above me is being evicted, wont even be on channel 4 either!

apparently on saturday night he was threatening "all" of the other residents in our block of flats which includes 2 old dears. my neighbour spoke to the landlord who said he's serving him an eviction notice... the landlord said he was nice as pie and asked for a chance which just goes to show the fucking idiot knows right and wrong... alcoholics/addiction a disability my fucking arse! his supporter was sticking up for him in asking for a reprieve... i wonder if these support workers would house such people next to themselves?

anyway, look out a fucking idiot with a disability (lol) claiming ££££'s might be moving into your street soon! you can't miss him, permanently wears a T shirt with "Fuck You2" written on it, face looks like he's ran into a wall with jagged edges (he probably has amongst other things).

in the landlords own words he is expecting more trouble before he leaves

the welfare state rocks! in fact i think we should pay more bills for them and give em more money and free booze & drugs, they die quicker hopefully.

[Hetzer]

While you're all carping on about how all these people don't work and get benefits etc, the fact is there are not enough jobs in this country to give every adult of working age a job with a wage suitable for what is considered an acceptable standard of living. Most of the people who do have jobs aren't getting enough for an acceptable standard of living. They get by with 3rd-grade food (cheap processed shite), go cold in the winter, buy most of their clothes from charity shops, have a banger of a car, if any car at all, shoddy appliances, no leisure other than their kids playing in the street, always behind on their bills, misery and worry...

I remember being on the dole fifteen odd years ago. I lived in a single room in a doss-house and had a bit over £6 a day on which to live. Not a chance in hell of a council flat, never mind a house. This world you think exists for scroungers is a fvcking fantasy, it simply doesn't exist. Even those with children are hard pressed.

Then ask yourselves why so many 'choose' to live on benefits. It's because most of the jobs they could get would leave them worse off than if they stayed on the dole, and that's a fact. Minimum-wage...slave labour...nowhere near enough to buy into the kind of fantasy society that's trawled across the TV screen day and night.

And don't discount anger. Plenty of people are now fully aware of how rotten the system is, and how they're expected to supply the bottom-line grunt for a pittance, so the select few can live life large on fat salaries. Or even on mid-level salaries, which are just about enough to provide a reasonably luxurious standard of living...30k pa? I doubt even that would comfortably make the nut these days, yet how many people do you know on that kind of money? I bet you could count them on the fingers of one hand. And why? Because this country doesn't produce enough of anything to provide those kinds of salaries to the majority. As I said in the beginning of this post, there aren't enough jobs to go around. We have too many people making demands of too few resources, and that equates to jobs that pay. If every adult in this country was on 30k a year there'd not be enough product to go around to be bought. There'd be queues around the block. Then the prices would go up and you'd be back to square one, 30k would equal 15k.

So how does a society control that kind of situation? It makes sure that only a minority gets the big money, a middle-class get enough to make them think working is worthwhile, and the rest are either malleable enough to be put to slave-labour or they're given a bare minimum (the dole) to keep them off the street. So you lot can blame them for all the country's ills.

And then, when enough natives prove unwilling to work their guts out in hellish jobs for a pittance, the govt opens the door to immigrants who are.

Why does the govt provide the dole? For humane reasons? No, not at all, it's to prevent mass rioting. The starving and cold going beserk. Pure pragmatism.

To say it again...there isn't enough in this country, or the world, to provide every worker with a decent standard of living.

That, and that alone, is why you have your underclass dole-scroungers.
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