Win/Fail in one story

Mister James · I want to believe! Joined: 10 Aug 2004 Karma :

https://www.metro.co.uk/news/article.html?War_lies_gave_me_post-traumatic_stress&in_article_id=714517&in_page_id=34

Win

Admitting that the MoD persistently lied about equipment being adequate.

Fail

Trying to make money out of that fact, despite being culpable yourself.

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superstacker · Traffic Copper Joined: 20 Feb 2005 Karma :

Anyone who believed that Snatch landrovers were bomb proof need their head checking anyway.

They are small landrovers with minimal armour, but at the beginning of the conflict roadside bombs weren't much of a problem.

I drove a few times through Iraq in a white Toyota Hilux (Basra to Kuwait) and the worst i saw back then (2004) was a taxi driving the wrong way up the highway towards me.

Then as the Shietes (sp) and the Sunni's grouped together and wanted British Forces out of Basra (near the end of my first tour), the need for armoured vehicles was apparent. However the civilian industry that provides them doesnt move as quick, and quite simply they weren't available.

However at least now its getting better and the kit is slowly coming through the system..

sickpup · Old Timer Joined: 21 Apr 2004 Karma :

I find this an interesting story and Mister James response to it equally interesting.

OssY · Nearly there... Joined: 12 Jan 2009 Karma :

Erm freedom of choice. If i get told to lie about something i have got the choice to fight or falter. He could have said no, what would they have done?? fired him??

Common sense should have taken over when he gets told to tell lies that will kill many of our troops. But as with all these cases the green eyed monster took over and he was blinded by the money, then when the money stopped coming he see's the light through the darkness of his lies....... And sues the government for more cash.
Class 1 pr1ck.

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Mister James · I want to believe! Joined: 10 Aug 2004 Karma :

sickpup · Old Timer Joined: 21 Apr 2004 Karma :

Mister James · I want to believe! Joined: 10 Aug 2004 Karma :

I'm fully aware of the OSA - however it only places a duty on you to withhold information that could damage national security if released - it does not require you to lie. If he felt so strongly about the whole thing he could've refused to carry on doing so - in fact, it's technically a legal obligation for him to do so. While there is no longer any 'public interest' defence for breaching the OSA, there was certainly nothing compellingly in the national interest to compel him to lie about Afghan equipment - it was only in New Labour's interest, which isn't the civil service's concern.

I'm not too bothered about the fact that he continued to do his job and knowingly tell porkies about the war; I'm more concerned with his rank hypocrisy in blubbing about the poor, dear ill-equipped troops while sticking his hands out for a share of the MoD's shrinking budget in kompensayshun. His actions are mercenary and imply that he believes his 'suffering' is on a par with the people getting blown limb from limb in a dusty shit hole on the other side of the world.

sickpup · Old Timer Joined: 21 Apr 2004 Karma :

Mister James · I want to believe! Joined: 10 Aug 2004 Karma :

sickpup · Old Timer Joined: 21 Apr 2004 Karma :

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