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RudiRulez
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PostPosted: 14:03 - 03 Aug 2009    Post subject: DT125 Intake Manifold Restrictor? Reply with quote

Been reading up on it, most say its a restrictor but some complained that they had lost a few mph off their top speed once they had cut it off, has anybody got a real picture of what the intake manifold actually looks like with the 'restrictor' still attached? All i have to go by is the amatuer drawing on dtr125.net, is it possible that this is to help the air-flow not restrict it OR maybe the people who removed it lost power because it was a restrictor but now their bike is running too lean and all they need to do is upjet the feel the benefits, can anyone help me to make the decision to cut it off or leave it be?

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PostPosted: 17:12 - 03 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

They may well loose a bit of topend, afterall you will be letting in more air so the A/F mixture will be out.

You will need to rejet after doing that.

Can't help on exactly what needs to be taken off/cut off though.
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PostPosted: 17:25 - 03 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

MattHirst wrote:
They may well loose a bit of topend, afterall you will be letting in more air so the A/F mixture will be out.

You will need to rejet after doing that.

Can't help on exactly what needs to be taken off/cut off though.


Thanks for the reply ive ordered some bigger jets and im gonna plug chop to find whats best for my setup, i know whats needs to be cut off of the manifold but i wanted someone with first hand experience at doing this to tell me if its worth it.
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PostPosted: 19:46 - 03 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

hey rudi - can u let me know the outcome of wot u do? ...

also, wots the set up of your bike just now?
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PostPosted: 20:58 - 03 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

bikersupermoto wrote:
hey rudi - can u let me know the outcome of wot u do? ...

also, wots the set up of your bike just now?


Yep thats what i had planned to do from the start, my only mods so far is a full DEP and the speedo is unrestricted(got rid of 60mph limiter).

My plan is to get an intake manifold from a pre 2000 model (because they dont have the extra piece of rubber) fit that and remove the air box snorkel and upjet to suit the extra airflow once all this is done i will get a top speed reading and my personal opinion on wether its worth the hassle atm it tops out at 70mph/9,500rpm in 6th gear.

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PostPosted: 15:35 - 05 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

hey rudi - just to let ya know ... on my 2004 dt125x, i took the full dep pipe off, fitted an older (early 90s) front pipe, and a fresco tail pipe.

the bike runs sooo much better like this, reasonable mid range pull compared to nothing before ... (town riding was dangerous it was so slow - it cudnt pull the skin off a rice pudding!) Shocked ... its got a "nice" noise an hopefully less likely to attract attention of mr plod now ... and im still getting 80mph out of it (on the bike's speedo - dont know how accurate it is - needing a gps unit to measure it better).

id still like more bottom end grunt tho - my dream wud be to fit a yz250 engine into it ... or just get a cr / crm 250 and supermoto it! Wink .

but my dep set - up was really bad and the bike ended up melting the piston ring into the piston and backfiring all the time with the dep set up (i bought the bike with it already on). i got a kmx125 that runs soooo nice with the standard pipe and is faster than the dtx - (wud luv to know wot previous owner did to it!)

anyways, lemme know how u get on with yrs! Very Happy
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PostPosted: 19:51 - 05 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pictures crap and I cant remember off the top of my head what the inlet looks like, however lots of bikes had some kind of 'stuffer' in them to reduce dead air / aid air flow. Before you cut it off be sure Wink
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PostPosted: 01:53 - 06 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

That does not look like a restrictor. I think it's to help the air flow, which is why people lose some speed when they cut it off. Normally, things that have to be cut off are meant to be there.
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PostPosted: 11:46 - 06 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

bikersupermoto wrote:

id still like more bottom end grunt tho - my dream wud be to fit a yz250 engine into it ... or just get a cr / crm 250 and supermoto it! Wink .

but my dep set - up was really bad and the bike ended up melting the piston ring into the piston and backfiring all the time with the dep set up (i bought the bike with it already on).


Sounds like you were running to lean, mine missfires and spits flames in the higher revs at first i thought i was running rich so i removed the airbox snorkel under the seat to get some more air in but i just lost all my low down power so i put the snorkel back in and partially blocked it and it ran nicely and pulled alot quicker in the low revs.

Ive got some bigger jets that im gonna fit and i will let you know how it goes after ive fitted one.
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PostPosted: 11:08 - 09 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

i di that mod to my sons bike and the midrange pull was far better and it actually increased the top end speed on his bike.
its an 03 model and it had a restrictor in the exhaust at the point where it mates with the barrel.
removing this is the best mod you can do.
it sounds like a 2stroke should now
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PostPosted: 21:55 - 10 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wonder if it was actually faster or it simply felt quicker as it was making loads more noise Confused

BTW I've checked and all the reed blocks I have for the old DT-R's have that extension piece Wink
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PostPosted: 19:30 - 14 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

according to the speedo it was faster Smile
i did a before and after run on the same stretch of road within 1/2 half hour of each other.
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