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Mord
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PostPosted: 01:09 - 05 Aug 2009    Post subject: Good 4-stroke for up to £1,5k Reply with quote

Before winter I'd like to buy a reliable bike for commutng which can be also a fun to ride. Something what has fairings and can be restricted to 33bhp and takes the restriction well.. It doesn't need to have a good fuel economy (4 mile commuting), it should be quick though Wink

My RS125 is not a perfect bike for commuting. Especially in winter time it's pain in **** Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 01:23 - 05 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

An old CBR600F would be good or a ZZR600.
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PostPosted: 07:10 - 05 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is only one true answer.

SV650.

That is all.
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PostPosted: 07:37 - 05 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

CBR600F Steelie. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 08:46 - 05 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Normally I'd take this opportunity to point out that my CBR is for sale Laughing but maybe a GPZ500 would be a good option? Have to look after it through winter though as the finish isn't great. CBR is a lot more fun and survives winter riding superbly but maybe not so good to restrict?

EDIT: Just looked at your location; you are very close to me if you want to have a look at the CBR Wink
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PostPosted: 10:33 - 05 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Plenty of bargains about with this weather, I just recently picked up a tidy 99 GS500 for 500 quid, it's not as quick or smooth as my old ZZR600 was but in all honesty it's far more fun and surprisingly nimble when it's not wallowing Smile
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PostPosted: 19:18 - 05 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

sv 650 or bandit 600
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PostPosted: 19:24 - 05 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Suzuki RF600s were quite good. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 20:00 - 05 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

ZZR600 is not a bad looking bike actually.. CBR600F is nice too.

Bandit, SV650, GS500, GPZ500 bikes.. it's just not my cup of tea to be honest.

It's going to be hard to choose something.. I still have a few months to decide, hopefully after summer the bikes will be cheaper Smile
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PostPosted: 20:19 - 05 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I went with a ZX6R but the SV650/CBR6F ect are all good choices for what you described Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 22:14 - 05 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ive been using a ZX636R all year round for over 3 years now, gets rusty and paint flakes off the rear footpeg hangers etc but thats mainly as i havent claned it since 2007 and its still very fun.

Just be sensible with your tyre choice for the winter months.
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PostPosted: 12:05 - 06 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can vouch for both the GPZ500s and the SV650s as good all round bikes. The SV is naturally more fun when not in commuting mode.

Ultimately though its one main merit for the SV is that being a V twin with a flat power delivery it is very forgiving when riding in the wet and even frost. Something to consider as IL4's can spin the rear very easily on wet roads.

I rode my SV which I bought from new every day (approx 15k a year) including two winters and simply gave it a quick spray with FS365 after each ride and it came out looking like new. (Pics on my profile show it after two winters if you want proof)
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PostPosted: 12:40 - 06 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

another vote for an older CBR600
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PostPosted: 12:50 - 06 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

extreme3d wrote:
I can vouch for both the GPZ500s and the SV650s as good all round bikes. The SV is naturally more fun when not in commuting mode.

Ultimately though its one main merit for the SV is that being a V twin with a flat power delivery it is very forgiving when riding in the wet and even frost. Something to consider as IL4's can spin the rear very easily on wet roads.

I rode my SV which I bought from new every day (approx 15k a year) including two winters and simply gave it a quick spray with FS365 after each ride and it came out looking like new. (Pics on my profile show it after two winters if you want proof)


That is a cracker of a sv which version was it and did it come with hugger and chrome bits? ooooh Very Happy Very Happy

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PostPosted: 12:58 - 06 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let me get this straight. You want to spend £1,500 on a bike to commute 4 miles a day?

Money > sense?

My first response is a pushbike. £200 will see you right, and a bit fitter.

My second response is a CG125 or similar, or even a CB250. Max of £600, for which it would have to be sweet as a nut.

You don't need fairings for a 4 mile commute. If the howling wind bothers you that much you could get a screen.

You don't need speed for a 4 mile commute either. I could cycle that in ten minutes - how much faster do you need to get to work?
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PostPosted: 18:35 - 06 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mark1965 wrote:
extreme3d wrote:
I can vouch for both the GPZ500s and the SV650s as good all round bikes. The SV is naturally more fun when not in commuting mode.

Ultimately though its one main merit for the SV is that being a V twin with a flat power delivery it is very forgiving when riding in the wet and even frost. Something to consider as IL4's can spin the rear very easily on wet roads.

I rode my SV which I bought from new every day (approx 15k a year) including two winters and simply gave it a quick spray with FS365 after each ride and it came out looking like new. (Pics on my profile show it after two winters if you want proof)


That is a cracker of a sv which version was it and did it come with hugger and chrome bits? ooooh Very Happy Very Happy

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PostPosted: 19:26 - 06 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Damofo D.O.G. wrote:
Let me get this straight. You want to spend £1,500 on a bike to commute 4 miles a day?

Money > sense?

My first response is a pushbike. £200 will see you right, and a bit fitter.

My second response is a CG125 or similar, or even a CB250. Max of £600, for which it would have to be sweet as a nut.

You don't need fairings for a 4 mile commute. If the howling wind bothers you that much you could get a screen.

You don't need speed for a 4 mile commute either. I could cycle that in ten minutes - how much faster do you need to get to work?


Thumbs Up On ya bike ya lazy cnut! Laughing
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PostPosted: 21:52 - 06 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's actually 4 miles one way (8 miles a day Wink I'm not that fit to ride a pushbike that far.. and I'm a lazy cunt too Laughing

I need a bike for 200-300 mile weekend trips too.
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PostPosted: 07:49 - 07 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd buy a push bike and save £1300 or so.

Or buy a CG as already stated. Mine was good for over 60 miles a day; for the price of a push bike (and change from a pub outing to fuel for a week).
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PostPosted: 08:17 - 07 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

extreme3d wrote:

Ultimately though its one main merit for the SV is that being a V twin with a flat power delivery it is very forgiving when riding in the wet and even frost. Something to consider as IL4's can spin the rear very easily on wet roads.


Is that right? I thought V-twins created more torque from standing than IL4s and so would be more likely to spin the back wheel when setting off in wet/frost?
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PostPosted: 08:26 - 07 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

extreme3d wrote:
I can vouch for both the GPZ500s and the SV650s as good all round bikes. The SV is naturally more fun when not in commuting mode.

Ultimately though its one main merit for the SV is that being a V twin with a flat power delivery it is very forgiving when riding in the wet and even frost. Something to consider as IL4's can spin the rear very easily on wet roads.)


Agreed, which is why I originally went for an SV as a commuter bike. It served as a good commuter, but was still potentially going to be a lot more fun than my GPZ500 was at the time. The GPZ was a great commuter, but it was dull - you would never really want to take it out for a 'blast' whereas the SV and its v-twin sound/power does!! Thumbs Up

One thing to bear in mind is that the SVs are notorious for pap standard suspension. This can all be sorted for a couppla hundred (OEM 'other' (but better) bike shock and some progressive springs in the front - better still 'emulators' and linear in the front ...)

So - if the suspenders haven't been sorted already, then cost in £200 to upgrade the suspension to a good point .... all that said, I rode mine round for several years on stock suspension and although a but wollowy, its not a problem ... even fun in some ways!! Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 08:30 - 07 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mordoklej wrote:
It's actually 4 miles one way (8 miles a day Wink I'm not that fit to ride a pushbike that far.. and I'm a lazy cunt too Laughing

I need a bike for 200-300 mile weekend trips too.


I had assumed that it was 4 miles each way. If you're not fit enough to ride a pushbike four miles at your tender age then you really should do something about it.

Anyway.

Sell your 125, what's the point in keeping it when you have a bigger bike, which you will also be using at the weekends?

Then get an SV.

I would recommend an FZR600R (like tutton's), would have thought they would take restriction ok, they have a fairly flexible motor, unlike modern 600's, and the build quality will likely exceed that of the SV.

You may not like the mid 90's styling tho...
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PostPosted: 08:32 - 07 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

flimbar wrote:

Is that right? I thought V-twins created more torque from standing than IL4s and so would be more likely to spin the back wheel when setting off in wet/frost?


I think the point is that it is more linear so you can predict/use it/teh revs with more certainty of the power you are using ... i.e. imagine a highly tuned 2-stroke ... nothing ... nothing ... nothing ... 100bhp!! Shocked ... that wouldn't be ideal in dodgy conditions!!!!

Whereas an SV is more ... 20hp ... 30hp ... 40hp ... 50hp ... 60hp ... !! Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 08:41 - 07 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah but it was a bit of a bollox point tho - makes it sound as if all IL4's go round uncontrollibly boiling their rears everywhere in the wet.

I've only ever spun up the rear in the wet through deliberate provocation, even full throttle in 2nd on the SRAD on greasy roads would not cause it to spin up.

I do weigh a fair bit tho. Cool
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PostPosted: 08:48 - 07 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Damofo D.O.G. wrote:

I would recommend an FZR600R (like tutton's), would have thought they would take restriction ok, they have a fairly flexible motor, unlike modern 600's, and the build quality will likely exceed that of the SV.

You may not like the mid 90's styling tho...
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Regardless of peoples perception of SV build quality, a 1990s bike will also have seen 10-20 more winters and years of use/abuse than an SV would ... reducing the chances of it being in 'better' condition or remaining that way ... (sure examples both ways, but as a general statement, a 15yr younger bike is likely to be in better initial condition!! Thumbs Up)
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