to big of a jump ?

[clancy]

right, so the most powerful bike ive ever driven properly is a 125.
im doing my A2 licence soon and am starting to look around at bikes.

basically, is going from 125 to a restricted 600 to much of a jump? or getting say, an old cbr400 as a sort of in between, a better move?

any advice on the situation would be helpful, thanks.
leigh.

[Frost]

Provided its restricted it won't be too big of a jump in power. However restricting a 100bhp bike down to 33bhp isnt very good for it and seems a little pointless. It also means when the restrictors enevitably fall out it will be a bigger jump up to full power. Also restricted or not, it's still 600cc you're going to have to insure, and thats not going to be cheap at a young age.

A good condition 400 would be the ideal solution i think, but they are all getting quite old now so the good ones are getting harder to find.

Perhaps something like the 250 ninja if you've got he money for one.

[clancy]

yeah the insurance could be a killer.

the 250 ninja would be ideal, but it doesnt really appeal to me.
so would you say a 400 wouldnt be to much?

id hate to spend a lot of money on the bike, to do something stupid like this muppet


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxbHyEIkgdU



leigh.

[lozzypop1]

CBR400 would need to be restricted to 33BHP anyway, so the power would be equal of that of a restricted 600.
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[clancy]

so driving a restricted 600 would make little difference to driving a 33bhp 250 for instance.

ideally i would buy and restrict a 600. to save buying another bike soon afterwards.

if it was you, what would you do? or what did you do etc.

thanks, leigh.

[lozzypop1]

Hi Leigh.

The top end power would be probably be the same, but you would get a better spread of power on the 600.

I sat my a2 in september last year, stayed on my CG until it got stolen in January (loved that little sucker - used to outcorner the bigger bikes on it) I found that staying on the smaller bike made me a better rider as opposed to a point-and-squirt rider. I had to learn to conserve momentum and use what I had.

In other words, I ride my bike I don't ride ON it. If you get my drift?

I now ride a restricted ER5. The power jump is amazing even though it doesnt sound a lot but after being on a 125 for so long, it's nice to have that little extra when needed.

Personally, I agree with working your way up the power ladder, only for the simple fact that I know SO many people who have jumped straight onto big bikes and just can't ride them.

Did this help? Or did I just babble at you?
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[clancy]

sorry to hear about your CG. there is some real scum on this earth.

yeah i get what you mean. i dont want to own a bike i cant handle properly, which was my only worry really.
so working my way up would be a smarter choice i guess.

yeah that did help lol. cheers mate.

[lozzypop1]

[clancy]

so powerwise, because its restricted, its not going to be a huuge difference whatever i get?

weight of the bike etc has been a bit of a dilema. i love the old cbr's. but there so heavy due to their age.


right, so becuase its restricted powers not a huge issude, worry more about the physical side of things? or am i getting the wrong end of the stick here

thanks for your help, leigh.

[lozzypop1]

[clancy]

yeah makes sence.

well, thanks for your help.
really appreciatte it

[lozzypop1]

[Frost]

Some rough insurance figures for a 20 year old with a years no claims

125 @ 28bhp = £150
250 @ 33bhp = £300
400 @ 33bhp = £600
600 @ 33bhp = £1000


As you can see they all have nearly the same peak power, but there is a massive insurance difference. As a general rule the bigger bikes will be heavier and the smaller bike will be better suited to short distances. I would aim somewhere in the middle and forget all thoughts of what bike you'll be wanting to get afterwards until alot closer to the time.

[clancy]

250 or 400 is looking the way to go. thanks for the help.


there all cheap to me. my current insurance premium is horrendous

[lozzypop1]

[carlperkins00...]

I had 2 weeks on a 50cc, 5 months on a 125, 5 months on a restricted 600, then de-restricted it.
Not a vendetta against DaFrostyOne, just proving a point.

[carlperkins00...]

out of interest.. how old are you Clancy?

Because I passed my test at age 17 in september 2008, bought and insured my hornet in january 2009.
turned 18 last may, and de-restricted the hornet in june.

if you are about 18+ then insuring a bandit/hornet will be really cheap. sub £500 i would have thought.

[lozzypop1]

[carlperkins00...]

yeah i know they are not quotes. I wasn't having a go at him i was just using them to get my point across..

mates CBR600 2000 cost him £1090 fully comp. 0 no claims and only just got a licence.
my CB600 1999 cost me £550 fully comp. 0 no claims and only just got a licence. and I had loads of extras.

[clancy]

ill still be 17 when i take the insurance out, so prices wont be cheap.
weight of the bike doesnt faze me to much, once the bikes moving its pretty irrelivant.

so you say for a first bike, sports bike is a no no due to insurance. other than that, i should be fine?
my main worry is not being able to handle the power. but i guess if i take it easy for a while untill im comfortable it shouldnt be a problem.

thanks, leigh.

[Frost]

[clancy]

yes i am young.
but please dont assume i am a little prick.
every bikers got to start somewhere

[carlperkins00...]

[Ste]

restrictors are for little girls, fuck 'em and go for a full power 600, it's much more fun than cutting its bollocks off by restricting it

250's are rare therefore expensive for what they are
400's are raped by 17yr olds therefore haven't been looked after well, if at all
600's are plentiful therefore the best buy

if wanting something slightly more newbie friendly and less expensive on insurance than have a look at 500cc commuter style bikes.

[clancy]

any bike suggestions ?