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PostPosted: 21:45 - 08 Aug 2009    Post subject: Yet Another tyre question !!!....Tyre choice for R6 ??? Reply with quote

Lookin for front and rear replacements for my 00 R6, I've got Dunlop 208 on on the mo.

I do use it to go too work on but its not that far so most of my riding it country road blasts on weeknights/weekends. won't be doing any track days yet, So looking for somethin that warms up quick, nice and grippy and not to bad in the rain.

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PostPosted: 21:50 - 08 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 08:01 - 09 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've always been happy with BT014s. I think they're triple compound so you get nice sticky stuff at the edges, medium soft next to that and slightly harder in the centre of the tyre (where it's more likely to square off). I would really recommend them in as they're great in the dry and wet.

They've been replaced by BT016s, but my bike shop said they had to start making 014s again as people weren't happy with them. I think it's more likely he had loads of 014s he had to get rid of. Wink
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PostPosted: 08:04 - 09 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I stuck Pirelli Diablos on mine. No complaints.
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PostPosted: 08:25 - 09 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 15:32 - 09 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pilot Road 2s are without doubt the best all weather road tyre money can buy!
They might cost a bit more than some of the others but they actually work out cheaper when you consider the mileage you`ll get out of them.
This is the 2nd bike i`ve had them on.Done 7k so far and probably got another 5-7k left. Wink
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PostPosted: 16:16 - 09 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

BadDog wrote:
I've always been happy with BT014s. I think they're triple compound so you get nice sticky stuff at the edges, medium soft next to that and slightly harder in the centre of the tyre (where it's more likely to square off). I would really recommend them in as they're great in the dry and wet.


BT014s are single compound.

The 016 is the 5 compound tyre. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 16:20 - 09 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep BT014'S on my R6, done about 2k, nicely on the wear marker and seriously squared off.
Think I will get a 016 on the back see if that helps with the squaring off.

Definatly don't get 014's if you want more than 2.5k out of them.
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PostPosted: 16:28 - 09 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

fuck me....only 2k and in need of a change already Shocked

if i used those i`d need 4-5 sets per year .Middle Finger..that`s silly money !
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PostPosted: 16:36 - 09 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just put some fresh bt021's on the cbr, there my tyre of choice.

The set I've just replaced were bt090's which I thought I'd try as they were softer, lasted precisely 26days to knackered.
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PostPosted: 17:08 - 09 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big_Ham wrote:
BadDog wrote:
I've always been happy with BT014s. I think they're triple compound so you get nice sticky stuff at the edges, medium soft next to that and slightly harder in the centre of the tyre (where it's more likely to square off). I would really recommend them in as they're great in the dry and wet.


BT014s are single compound.

The 016 is the 5 compound tyre. Thumbs Up


Oops Embarassed sorry about that. I toyed with Pirelli diablo corsa 3 for a set and have obviously mixed the two up. I blame the Alzheimers.

I didn't like the Corsa 3s in the wet anyway and went back to 014s. Never seem to square mine off though, and can last over 3k (might not be totally legal) . Might have to replace them more, but they're bloody good rubber IMO. Always feel safe cranking it right over. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 20:25 - 09 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Michelin Pilot Powers. Thumbs Up

I have toyed with the idea of putting a pair of Michelin Pilot Road 2's on my R6 but I am unsure whether I will notice/miss the slight performance disadvantage. Also the Pilot Road 2's are a sports touring tyre whereas an R6 isn't at all a sports tourer, it is a supersport bike. Is it really that wise to downgrade to a lesser performance tyre?

The other thing that I am having problems with is rear punctures and I already have one repair plug in it now, with yet something else (looks like a panel pin) poking through the tyre too. It is leaking slowly but surely. I seem to have to replace more tyres due to punctures than actually by wearing them out. If I had a tyre that would do half as much or even double the mileage of my current Pilot Powers, what is the chance of me actually ever managing to wear it out without getting too many punctures?

Any wisdom on my thoughts?
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PostPosted: 23:03 - 09 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stay out of the hashed areas and the gutter, stick to middlish of the road, there's no end of crap accumulated along the centerline and edges.
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PostPosted: 07:03 - 10 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

MattEMulsion wrote:
Michelin Pilot Powers. Thumbs Up

I have toyed with the idea of putting a pair of Michelin Pilot Road 2's on my R6 but I am unsure whether I will notice/miss the slight performance disadvantage. Also the Pilot Road 2's are a sports touring tyre whereas an R6 isn't at all a sports tourer, it is a supersport bike. Is it really that wise to downgrade to a lesser performance tyre?



Performance disadvantage?
Downgrading?
are you a SERIOUSLY quick road rider or track god?..lol

Just because a tyre says sports or sports touring it doesn`t mean you`re only supposed to use it on a sports or sports touring bike.
It`s more to do with your style of riding/road conditions/mileage etc etc.

I had the pilot powers on my 6rr before i switched to the pr2s and the pr2 is a far more superior road going tyre in every respect.The only noticeable difference in the pilot power was the quicker tip in it had through the corners.....but that`s it.They sucked in the wet and didn`t last long at all.If you live in a country that`s always dry and warm (and can afford to keep replacing them every 2-3k)..buy them.If you don`t they`re a waste of money and slightly dangerous on less than perfect tarmac.....just like all sports rubber is.
I don`t see the fascination with sports rubber tbh if you live in the UK.Once summer`s over they`re next to no use.They`re great if you only ride for a few months a year when it`s warm but if you ride all year those tyres arent practical at all.

Something else to think about that makes touring tyres better than sports is "how much time do we actually spend at extreme lean angles on the roads at full chat??....atleast 70-80% of our regular journeys are spent totally upright (or at very SLIGHT lean angles) so bascially it makes sense to have a tyre with a more durable centre compound.Doesn`t it?
I ride quite quick and spirited all year but the edges don`t get anywhere near as much use as the middle does.

anyway each to their own i suppose but i can assure you ...you don`t lose out on the handling with a PR2 and you gain in every other aspect.
if you fit them you`ll see for yourself and you`ll never want to change rubber again.
Perfect road tyres for powerful sports bikes IMO.
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PostPosted: 18:48 - 11 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I don't tend to ride in the gutters or over the hatched areas but I still seem to get random punctures from time to time. How, when or why is anyones guess.

As for the pro's and con's of using a sports tyre over a sports touring tyre then I am still unsure that the touring tyre is for me. From time to time I do push my bike pretty hard and I like the level of grip that the Pilot Powers give me. I have had the very occasional slip or slide from them when warm and pushed really hard, would a lesser tyre have let go by that point? My tyres do get used all the way from sidewall to sidewall but obviously wear out in the centre line first.

The rain factor isn't really an issue as my bike is a toy and I don't go out if it is throwing it down with rain. If I am out and it rains not a problem but I don't have to use it in bad weather so the fact that Pilot Road 2's have great wet weather grip is of little consequence to me.

The mileage aspect is something to think about as I am sure everyone would prefer to get more miles out of their tyres. I can scrape about 4000 miles out of a rear Pilot Power so it isn't that bad. Bear in mind too that I suffer from these damn punctures, is it worth even trying a tyre that will last for say 8000 miles as the chances are it will be knackered well before I can wear it out.

I am heading off to the Nurburgring again in September and I will have to have a new pair of tyres before then. I realise that for a ride to Germany the smart move would be to stick a pair of Pilot Road 2's on, but once I get on the Ring I would like to have some decent sticky rubber underneath me, which I know how hard I can push with etc.
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PostPosted: 06:51 - 12 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dont know what to suggest then mate.If you doubt the PR2s why not stick with something you`ve used before so your mind`s at ease?

I ride quite hard too but not "track" hard so i can`t honestly say how well a PR2 responds/grips in those situations on a sports 6.
For the road though....i`ve never lost traction with a PR2 and i`ve pushed them hard on a sports 6 and the rsvr1000.

Suppose it`s a case of trial and error.If you want 100% confidence on the track and you know the weather`s gonna be good you should fit some super soft sports rubber if that`s the priority...but i hope you take it easy on the way there!
Personally i wouldn`t fancy going all the way to germany on soft sports rubber.Don`t think i`d make it there in 1 piece tbh.
Good luck.
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PostPosted: 18:36 - 12 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

BadDog wrote:
I've always been happy with BT014s. I think they're triple compound so you get nice sticky stuff at the edges, medium soft next to that and slightly harder in the centre of the tyre (where it's more likely to square off). I would really recommend them in as they're great in the dry and wet.

They've been replaced by BT016s, but my bike shop said they had to start making 014s again as people weren't happy with them. I think it's more likely he had loads of 014s he had to get rid of. Wink


I'm sure the Bridgestone 3 compound is actually a two compound but they claim its 3 compounds as it goes soft hard soft and the 5 compound tyre is a 3 compound as it goes 12321 interms of hardness.
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