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PostPosted: 11:27 - 12 Aug 2009    Post subject: Bit of bike advice please..... Reply with quote

My missus, who has been riding big (as in 600 size) bikes for a couple of years now has just had a couple of low speed offs that have totally screwed her confidence. She is fine when riding, but whenever she is in a confined situation I have to move her bike for her.

I wanted some opinions on what bikes she could try that are light & low but quite powerful and not cruiser style or out and out sports bkes.

She has a water cooled bandit at the moment which would be traded in for whatever is next on the list.

Cheers guys
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PostPosted: 11:28 - 12 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

SV650/Gladius?
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PostPosted: 11:42 - 12 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

She would feel more confident and comfortable with a ninja 250.
Bigger the cc, heavier the bike.. IMHO 250 Ninja is a perfect girly bike.
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PostPosted: 11:43 - 12 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

calyx wrote:
She would feel more confident and comfortable with a ninja 250.
Bigger the cc, heavier the bike.. IMHO 250 Ninja is a perfect girly bike.


Note that "powerful" is a requirement as stated above.
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PostPosted: 11:46 - 12 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

CB1?

Monster 4/6?
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PostPosted: 11:54 - 12 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

When she's in a confined situation, DON'T move the bike for her.

She'll get her confidence back by doing the things she'd not confident doing, not by changing the bike. That might involve her getting very pissed off at you, but then she'll get pissed off at herself and hopefully 'man up' and just get on with it.

At best, you're gonna save what, 20kg by changing bike. Even little 400s are still heavy. If she could cope with the heavy bike before she can cope with it again.
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PostPosted: 12:30 - 12 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

calyx wrote:
Bigger the cc, heavier the bike..


That's really bad advice Thumbs Down
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PostPosted: 12:49 - 12 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big_Ham wrote:
calyx wrote:
She would feel more confident and comfortable with a ninja 250.
Bigger the cc, heavier the bike.. IMHO 250 Ninja is a perfect girly bike.


Note that "powerful" is a requirement as stated above.


RSV4 then.
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PostPosted: 12:56 - 12 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I`d go for SV650 as well
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PostPosted: 13:01 - 12 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think Babyyam is very tall and she seems happy enough with her zephyr.
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PostPosted: 13:06 - 12 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

njd27 wrote:


RSV4 then.


Good shout, just bust it round on the sidestand. Razz
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PostPosted: 13:07 - 12 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't imagine an SV being any easier to maneuver than a bandit. Is it a fairly new bike she would be looking for?

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PostPosted: 13:14 - 12 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

valver wrote:
I can't imagine an SV being any easier to maneuver than a bandit.


Thinner, easier to get feet down.
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PostPosted: 13:21 - 12 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Go bigger.
The old K12100LT has a reverse gear and a hydraulic (automatic) centre stand.

Plus with all that luggage there's bound to be space for all the makeup and clothes.

That's why my missus is wanting one Wink Very Happy
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PostPosted: 14:03 - 12 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the input.

By powerful, I would say about the same power as her bandit as her riding on the road is fine.

Bendy, we were at Poole last night and she wouldn't move her bike out incase she went over onto another. I couldn't really not move it for her, but I know what you are saying.

I was thinking of something along the lines of a monster or similar, but I'm not sure it would be an improvemnt over what she has.
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PostPosted: 14:17 - 12 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

How about a Buell? The XB12Scg is just about the lowest bike I've ever sat on, yet with a 1200cc twin its not exactly short on power.
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PostPosted: 14:18 - 12 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Polarbear wrote:

Bendy, we were at Poole last night and she wouldn't move her bike out incase she went over onto another. I couldn't really not move it for her, but I know what you are saying.


Fair enough, but start it now. It's the only thing that'll actually work - she's gonna have to either not get into situations she doesn't like, or start getting herself out of them. Or sit around and wait a bloody long time til other people have moved, while you've sodded off home.

Sure, there are situations where 'hand bike over to bigger, stronger, more confident person' is the easiest solution, but she's gotta ask herself what she'd do if that wasn't an option.

Go on a little touring jaunt where there's lots of low speed, tight cornered single track kinda stuff and arsey parking to be done. Kill or cure time, chances are it'll cure.
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PostPosted: 16:55 - 12 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ichy wrote:
I don't think Babyyam is very tall and she seems happy enough with her zephyr.


You didn't see me on Saturday though. Embarassed

Mind you I was somewhere in the wilds of the Lancs/Yorks border stopped in a gravel gateway giving onto a steep uphill single-track road, trying to do a 90-degree righthander out onto the road. After the 3rd time of trying and the bike either wheelspinning or the back just slipping sideways Shocked I realised that I had managed to edge just far forward enough to not be able to get the stand down safely cos of the increased downhill camber and get off and push and I couldn't roll back to where I'd been cos I had no foot-purchase on the gravel.... had to get the OH to hold the bike up while I got off, then I had to hold it up while he got on, even he then needed a push from me to actually get round and onto the road lol, not going there again!

But seriously, how much foot-downage does she have on the bandit? I know for a lot of shorties it isn't an issue but for me it's a huge thing, if I feel like I can get my feet down properly on both sides I feel like I am in control and not about to drop the bike if that makes sense? If she's on tippytoes on her bandit it could just be that getting it lowered an inch or so could make a whole world of difference to her confidence.
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PostPosted: 18:15 - 12 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Polarbear wrote:
Bendy, we were at Poole last night and she wouldn't move her bike out incase she went over onto another. I couldn't really not move it for her, but I know what you are saying.


Tell her to back it into the space... That way she can easily drive out without worry Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 18:26 - 12 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

ZZR600s have a very low seat, not especially light though.
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PostPosted: 18:28 - 12 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bendy wrote:

At best, you're gonna save what, 20kg by changing bike. Even little 400s are still heavy.

Bandit 600 listed at 208kg, SV650 listed at 165kg.
So the Bandit is about 25% heavier than the SV. Anyway teach her feet-up burnouts/doughnuts for getting out of those tight spaces Razz.
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PostPosted: 18:29 - 12 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was at Poole last night and it was very busy and tbh it's a real test of confidence, as there are so many factors. It's one thing dropping your bike, another doing it in front of loads of other bikers and randoms, then there's risking knocking into another bike and it's really tight parking on a busy night. I don't think being nervous of parking up last night is extraordinary.

I've a lowered SV650 and I'm local, so if she'd like to have a try she's very welcome. Another thing though is a girl I ride out with has just swapped from an SV650 to a Bandit and had a low speed drop recently. The general consensus is that it wouldn't have happened on the SV (it didn't in the 2 years she had it) and it was down to the extra height of the Bandit making it more difficult.

Just a thought - feet down gives you confidence and even if it's all psychosomatic who cares.
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PostPosted: 19:15 - 12 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did the drops happen on the Bandit or on a previous bike?
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PostPosted: 19:47 - 12 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bendy wrote:
Did the drops happen on the Bandit or on a previous bike?


On this bandit and they were both very slow.overbalancing drops where she couldn't hold it up once it started to go.
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PostPosted: 19:52 - 12 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tonka wrote:


I've a lowered SV650 and I'm local, so if she'd like to have a try she's very welcome.


Many thanks for the offer Tonka but we aren't from down there. We rode down from Milton Keynes just for the evening to have a look at the bikes.
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