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I have an 02 rover 45 impression s, parents have an 05 rover 25 and a 54 rover 45. All are 2L turbos.
Removing the stereotype surrounding these cars, they are actually very nice! Very reliable, good fuel economy, cheap tax (actually the same to tax as my 1.2 petrol corsa I had) and of course there are plenty of spares around.
They do look smart but they do fill up a parking space because they are quite large cars and the 75 would be even bigger. There is lots of boot space though but most of them do come with alloys. It copes well in towns and motorways- is a good car for going steadily and certainly has the extra turbo pull factor when needed! And also if your on a hill and over taking it will 'own' lol
They are lovely cars and I would very highly recommend a 2L diesel one.  |
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| beatnck2 wrote: | Have you considered a Saab?
The most comfortable seats ever, they arent the usual 'repmobile' and you can get a lot of car for your money.
I think you might struggle to find a decent car with steel wheels though - why dont you want alloys? |
I probably got that wrong when I said I dont want alloys.
What I meant to say, is I dont want oversize wheels with thin tyres.
Come to think of it, my current car has alloys, and thats fine.
What I mean is I dont want the thing of oversize alloys and thin tyres for sharp handling, as I want comfort.
An astra would not be good, as I'd be doing mega miles, maybe 40,000 a year. Id want something that is designed for motorway cruising, not nipping to the shops.
Vectra may be worth considering, but I have a feeling wdnt be as good as a citroen c5 or rover 75.
I know taxi drivers get avensis's, so I know they can do mega miles, but I tend to think there are more plush cars for not much cash.
I've seen a 2002 rover 75 go for £1500. I think of the 75 as a bit more luxurious than an avensis. BMW's hold their value too well, so a 2002 bmw would be quite pricey in comparison.
I'll have a look at saabs.
Comfy seats is where its at for me.
My current car has gorgeous seats, so thats the kind of thing I want, ideally with electrical raising and lowering. ____________________ colin1 is officially faster than god |
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I get what you mean about the alloys now Col.
Seriously, try a Saab, you will be amazed
In my last job all i did was drive different cars around, i found the Saabs, Audi's and Mercs were very comfy, Skoda Superbs were pretty good too.
BMW's never seemed that great to me, a lot of them tend to have a very firm ride.
Dont discount Mondeo's, for mile crunching they are ace |
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Hummm, I had a P reg 306 TDS. It is my fave car of all cars I've owned. Was perfect until I stacked it into a oversized pavement, shafted the steering column
Its not fast, but its fun . . Used ot race it evey weekend around MK roud-a-bout run. |
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How about a Jaguar? You can pic up 2 litre x-types on a 54 plate for £4000 and under. If you like comfy you have to go a long way to beat a Jag. ____________________ And did you exchange a walk on part in the war for a lead role in a cage?
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| colin1 wrote: | I'm now a bit puzzled by 520d
wiki says they were first available in 2000, but ive not seen any on ebay before 2004 |
The E39 520d first appeared here in 2000 and the E60 520d arrived in 2005, after the 530d and 525d.
Both are excellent cars, but you won't get an E60 within your budget.
Please for love of God do not buy a Rover 75 diesel (Diesel lift pumps/fuel coolers/intercoolers/radiator fans/engines/gearboxes all very common problems). Or a C5, far far too much to go wrong with the suspension.
I would seriously reconsider a Toyota Avensis. Have you been in a later shape Avensis? They are very comfortable and not like other Jap cars which all remind of an '89 Datsun Cherry interior wise. The Avensis is just about indestructible, with the only real problems I've heard about being turbochargers failing (which as Toyota won't let IHI release them through thier aftermarket program they are main dealer only and cost over £1k, a used one shouldn't be hard to find though) but very few and far between.
I'd even pick an Avensis over a 520d, and I hate FWD, I hate Jap cars and I love BMWs, that's how good that car is. ____________________ Current: ZZR1400
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| Quote: | Im still puzzled why the E39 520ds arent appearing on ebay.
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Parker's guide doesn't list them as a UK model, although my parts systems do, and they appear in the UK model search on BMW's website (although they have none for sale either).
If (and I think they were) officially marketed here, then I doubt many people chose them over the 525d or 530d. The larger engined E39s would of returned pretty similar MPG figures, better performance (although the earlier 525d had a 20hp deficit) and would of offered no tax benefits. A bit of a no brainer in this country really at the time. The current 520d has a stonking motor though. ____________________ Current: ZZR1400
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| Phoenix wrote: | The only reason I suggested a 320 or 520d is due to your 2litre limit, however that is a rather arbitrary limit imposed by your boss as it doesn't really reflect economy, ultimately as you will be buying the car I'd suggest getting whatever is suitable aslong as the fuel economy is equivalent to other 2litre diesels.
The 325/525 TDS BMWs are better and much more common, both are the same engine and will get you a consistent 50mpg and they're both cheap to buy now and plenty of examples so you can find a nice one. The 530d which I have has a fair bit more power but you're down to about 45mpg, they're also more expensive to buy and they're newer.
I don''t know what engine the 2.0 diesel Omega uses, presumably a vauxhal one out of a Vectra or something, don't see many about. The 2.5 diesel is the better one, it uses the BMW engine out of the cars mentioned above. |
Yeah i'd agree 2.5 diesel would be better, but rules are rules. I think the rule is based on the CO² output of the car. Someone once gave me a long lift in 2.5 diesel omega, and it was great on the motorway, quite probably better than the passat.
It would make waves if I tried to say I should be allowed a 2.5 car, when 2 other reps would have liked to have a 2.5 car.
There is a thing of with seniority you get to have bigger engine size, so if I were to try to get the bigger engine, it would be bad form.
I might find out what the exact rules are, and see if I can do it within the rules.
I quite like the idea of a bmw 525, but a passat or rover 75 would probably be fine too. ____________________ colin1 is officially faster than god |
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| Phoenix wrote: | I don''t know what engine the 2.0 diesel Omega uses, presumably a vauxhal one out of a Vectra or something, don't see many about. The 2.5 diesel is the better one, it uses the BMW engine out of the cars mentioned above. |
I think the newer omega diesels have vauxhall's own 2.2 IL4 engine in.. which would be the same one as in the vectra.. the older ones with the BMW 2.5TD engine in are much better, more reliable and more economical
also, they run on a slightly lower power map than the engine does in the 525tds, it's possible to get an omega remapped to give better performance and economy.
I drove a Rover 75 2.0CDTI on and off for two years, overall it's a really nice car, provided you can get past the mock-tudor interior, bright orange illuminated fake-parchment style beige clocks, beige leather interior and boatload of fake chrome.. the electric driver's seat can be adjusted to fit pretty much anyone, i've personally done 350mile trips without a break and didn't feel tired.
However, you should know that the 75 is a *really* heavy car, they're not fast (at all), they eat tyres, they're really sensitive to low rear tyre tread (worn rears create amazing amounts of understeer) and you'll get about 46mpg out of it unless you drive like a nun.
My uncle had a Citroen c5 non-turbo diesel estate for his work (local plumber) after a long string of Volvo estates, in his words you could "tell it was french" and it "moved slower than a high-carb breakfast"
with a 4k budget you've got a massive range of possibilities.. vectra, passat, mondeo, Volvo s80D, Audi A4 tdi, Skoda Octavia, saab 9-3, bmw 320d, Discovery 300TDI, P38 Range Rover DSE (ok you wont get more than 35mpg out of the last two but they're cool )
My father does ~60,000 motorway miles a year, he currently has a 2.0TD Honda Accord which does about 52mpg, his advice on picking a distance car is try them all out and pick the one that has the best seat and nicest sounding radio  ____________________ Well, I've wrestled with reality for 35 years, Doctor, and I'm happy to state I finally won out over it. - Elwood P. Dowd |
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