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PostPosted: 17:57 - 18 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whilst I'm all for wearing earplugs, I even have custom made ones from Ultimate Ears. I don't think blatant spam is the way to do it... Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 18:01 - 18 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spam, eh?

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PostPosted: 18:17 - 18 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

It may be cheap sales patter, but it's reasonably important information nonetheless. I've recently bought some ear plugs (not from these guys of course!) and couldn't believe the difference.
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PostPosted: 18:19 - 18 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just to add, if anybody see's me at any local bike meets feel free to ask me for earplugs, I get them free from work and keep a huge bag of disposable earplugs under my pillion seat. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 18:33 - 18 Aug 2009    Post subject: Re: Wind Noise, Hearing Loss and Noise Fatigue Reply with quote

BikePlugs wrote:
Does anyone wear hearing protection at the minute?


Not at this minute, but I do when i ride the bike as it's common sense. Yet many don't and won't because they rather be cool(yet they will be plagued with tinnitus in later life) .
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PostPosted: 18:38 - 18 Aug 2009    Post subject: Re: Wind Noise, Hearing Loss and Noise Fatigue Reply with quote

Finglonga wrote:
BikePlugs wrote:
Does anyone wear hearing protection at the minute?


Not at this minute, but I do when i ride the bike as it's common sense. Yet many don't and won't because they rather be cool(yet they will be plagued with tinnitus in later life) .

I have tinnitus already, does this exempt me? Laughing

Honestly the 50cc isn't loud enough with my helmet on, really noise cancelling so no need for plugs.

Blatant spam! Thumbs Down
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PostPosted: 20:18 - 18 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

cheers, etc/
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PostPosted: 21:00 - 18 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ignoring the blatant spam, as said, it is good advice.

It's so much better, find some the fit nicely (I like the 3M orange ones as they are soft) and you will be set.

Also, I think it makes you faster as everything doesn't seem so loud, good for trackdays.

Seriously, if you havn't tried them, try them next time you find some, you'll see how good it is Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 22:16 - 18 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ha ha...not even an introductory post first, you will get SPAMMED right off the forum.

Yes 'most' bikers know about noise, that's why we wear earplugs...and 'most' will be clever and find a mate who works in a factory/airport and can get us handfuls of them for FREE!!!!! Idea
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PostPosted: 22:24 - 18 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Minerva Hearing Protection....that sounds familiar, now where have I heard that before?

Oh yes, I remember, I think that was the company that my mate bought some earplugs from a while back. Turned out they were contaminated with Clostridium perfringens and he ended up with necrotising fasciitis inside his head. Ate away the inside of his cranium causing all manner of symptoms over a few weeks like memory loss, behavioural changes and uncontrollable incontinence until his brain was completely gone and he just collapsed like a rag doll one day, dead. Good advice on the earplugs though and I hope I don't put anyone off using your company, I'm sure you've mostly cleared up the hygiene problems now, thanks! Thumbs Up Very Happy
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PostPosted: 23:00 - 18 Aug 2009    Post subject: Re: Wind Noise, Hearing Loss and Noise Fatigue Reply with quote

Paulington wrote:

Honestly the 50cc isn't loud enough with my helmet on, really noise cancelling so no need for plugs.


It isn't engine noise that is the problem. Wind noise is what causes the damage as the amount generated round a crash helmet is way more than the exhaust lets out once you get to a reasonable speed.

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PostPosted: 23:31 - 18 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

i dont wear them because i dont ride very long but i am considering going to london which i will wear them when going such a long distances Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 23:51 - 18 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pardon?
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PostPosted: 09:10 - 19 Aug 2009    Post subject: Re: Wind Noise, Hearing Loss and Noise Fatigue Reply with quote

Kickstart wrote:
Paulington wrote:

Honestly the 50cc isn't loud enough with my helmet on, really noise cancelling so no need for plugs.


It isn't engine noise that is the problem. Wind noise is what causes the damage as the amount generated round a crash helmet is way more than the exhaust lets out once you get to a reasonable speed.

All the best

Keith


I can't hear my baffleless race exhaust on my CBR above 50mph, let alone the engine. I know I keep laying into this but it is quite funny...Paulington, you would surely know this if your RS50 HAD done the 75mph you had in your sig for so long Laughing
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PostPosted: 13:10 - 19 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

blindweezy wrote:
i dont wear them because i dont ride very long but i am considering going to london which i will wear them when going such a long distances Thumbs Up


Thing is it makes no difference how long your riding for, the damage is being done it a certain volume level not time.
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PostPosted: 13:15 - 19 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe the duration is important actually Thumbs Up

The problem with wearing earplugs is that you ride faster generally as your perception of speed is different!
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PostPosted: 15:40 - 19 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is a combination of duration and noise level.
But 90db is considered damaging.
Duration of noise above 85db has different effects dependant on noise level.
Google it.

Most sound is generated at or near the base of the helmet.
Skirts work but look so naff.
Earplugs are a solution.
The main thing is for us bikers to demand protection from noise from the manufacturers. Some helmets perform better than others. But they only have to comply with the futile impact tests.
More damage is done to hearing by just wearing helmets but no-one has really challenged this.
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PostPosted: 15:42 - 19 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your ear plugs are for pussies
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PostPosted: 16:03 - 19 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

MinhDinh wrote:
Your ear plugs are for pussies

wouldnt they be called pussy plugs then?
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PostPosted: 16:05 - 19 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 17:19 - 19 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

T0MMY wrote:
I believe the duration is important actually Thumbs Up



It is, but as soon as it gets to a certain level it is doing harm. So no point not popping them in when not going far as the damage is accumulative.
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PostPosted: 17:42 - 19 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was at my dad and he came home with a few boxes for him and me. When i say a few i mean 10 boxes of 500. Laughing

I use them everytime im on the bike. And soon relise when i forget to put thim in. Then only Thumbs Down is you can't hear what the engine is doing.


I have the blue plastic ones. Fit nice. But currently using the free ones from my Bike shop. They were free and i took 10. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 19:00 - 20 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Custom Injection moulded work very well as they can be fitted or removed easily.
Try rolling a joint/fag/foam earplug with cold/wet fingers. Sad

They cost a packet but the trade off is sure protection from certain hearing damage.

Only problem I have with them is I keep losing the £60 fcukers.... Embarassed
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PostPosted: 22:06 - 20 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

what about riding with earphones? i tend to ride while listening to music if travelling anymore than 30 miles.
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