Baiting.

[quacker_boy]

So, good people of BCF, having just driven back to my house in Lympstone I toyed with an old skool 'Blade. I came off Countess Wear roundabout and ragged the tits off my Citroen Xsara, it's hideously slow compared to a bike but I caught up to him just before the turn off towards the M5 junction and to join the A376.

Catching up with him, we entered the turn off which has an AMAZING s bend in it before joining the Dual Carriageway. He's in the outside lane and pins it and drags his knee on the tarmac before flicking the bike to right and taking the next tighter corner. I had no intention of actually trying to push my car to it's limits but I wanted to see what he could do.

After he bombed off down the road, I was overcome with guilt for baiting someone like that. What if I'd done that to a guy who had a 600 or something larger and pushed beyond their limit and stacked it? I felt so bad afterwards. Not REALLY sure of the point of this post I guess, what are your stories?
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[Steve-D]

I know the corner you mean

I made some chav in a saxo crash with him trying to catch me on the diversion. Went round a 90 degree corner at about 70 or so, look in my mirrors to see him spin off backwards into a grass verge.

How I laughed.
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[Mystery]

when i've been out on the twistys on my 125 i've seen a few guys on 400's and 600's flicking the bike around with ease much to my amazement but i cant even get my knee yet need sliders
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[MaybeGuy]

ive been in that car with you...


beleive me, the bike would have been baiting you
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Kickstart wrote: Hi I tend to agree with Matt. All the best Keith

[Grayzo]

its just the fact that most "non-bikers" have this thing were they dont understand that "most" bikes are faster than cars thats top end AND accelaration! so they seem to think they can keep up or evan beat the biker???

(bikes.........the way forwards)
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[quacker_boy]

[Feasty]

Lol, you're not alone in this. When I see bikes faster/bigger than mine (which is most of the time! ) I just go for it anyway. I get level at the lights and let rip, I normally beat them for the first 100-200 metres before they realise what I'm up to and zip past. I don't do it specifically to bait or even to try and win, it's just fun seeing bikes do what they do best!

I'm also suprised at just how many riders don't bother joining in, they are mainly the weekend warriors though who are probably too scared to open the throttle more than a tenth of the way in case it spoils the chrome...
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(7 year gap), BMW F650 (Relaxing ride). Aprilia Caponord ETV1000 (Big and bold). Yamaha FZS600 (got me in trouble too quick!).
Current: Yamaha TDM 900 (Comfy, light but big, power when needed).

[T0MMY]

Was this a Xsara VTS? Very capable cars, I used to race bikes on twisty roads in Scotland in mine all the time. To be honest, on those sort of roads you'll be backing off in the car if you're a decent driver Obviously you've no chance under acceleration but round corners a good car will normally beat a bike and Xsara VTSs are very good round corners, real sleepers to be honest.
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[Walloper]

Fcuk Off...
I would give up riding bikes if I got creamed by some prick in a car.
Down a straight or round a corner.
What ever the car can do in a bend is nothing compared to a bike's power to weight on the straight.
I have yet to meet the Chav/Ned or Skoob-Operator quick enough to beat me.

Bike it. Nothing else matters!
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[Poseidon]

I was on a stretch of the A166 between York and Stamford Bridge a few years back where there's a decent chicane (advisory 40mph limit... f*ck off! ). I was "making progress" and I saw 2 bikes catching me in my mirrors. The whole section of road is double solid white lines, as it's not safe for anything to overtake... So to save holding them up, I pushed the accelerator through the floor boards and flung my 1.9 turbo diesel Pug 306 into the bends... tyres peeling off the rims sort of stuff. Came out of the bends at 90ish, at which point the bikes flew past me, leaving me as if I was stood still! They both gave me a hearty as they passed! I felt special that day!
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[Mystery]

[Poseidon]

If it's in a white rectangular box... it's advisory. If it says 40mph and the road is national speed limit, you can legally do 60 around it. My riding instructor was impressed I did 60 around the same chicane from my story as I felt it was perfectly safe to do so, and could justify it! Apparently most students anchor on down to 40, creating a hazard in themselves! They are mostly there to frighten people!
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[quacker_boy]

Glad to see I'm not the only one who does this

Tommy, no it's not a Xsara VTS unfortunately just a standard 1.6, does handle suprisingly well though, I'd love to get some decent wheels and tyres on it and a strut bar and I reckon it'd hold it's line very well.

I also wound down the windows last night just to hear him scream past

God damn I need to get a bike out here!
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[T0MMY]

[T0MMY]

[Villers]

I love to see bikes going for it! If the rider is so easily persuaded that he feels he has to race you then he's taking his own chances isnt he. Not entirely your fault!

I did have a giigle when me and the mrs watched a bloke on a ducati try and take the inside line around a transit van on a roundabout on Saturday night. Poor guy ran out of confidence and skill at about 15mph whilst the van went sailing past.

Each to their own!
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[Ben.]

not so sure about cars being quicker... had a play with an evo 10, i was quicker on straights (not by a lot, mind), and i let him lead me down some bends, the thing that got me was the way the car just lapped up all the loose shit, pot holes etc, where i had to back off he just gripped and fucked off, i was carying a good lean angle and sticking with him but i would have been going quicker if i was in front...
so yes i would have been going quicker (hardly - im talking 5 - 10mph speed differences here) but cars dont have to worry anywhere near as much about road conditions, and they can be pretty much on par with a bike...
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[Hetzer]

[G]

It's up to each road user to ride/drive within their skill level.

Incidentally, bikes tend to be quicker changing direction when braking is not involved, but a car should be hold their brakes a lot deeper into the corner, so when it's a case of corner-accelerate-brake-corner, rather than flicking between corners, the car's got a bit of an advantage.
However, I'd say at this point it's probably still a lot based on the skill/balls of the people riding/driving rather than the vehicles themselves, presuming a not too bad car.

[T0MMY]

Maybe the guy couldn't drive for shit or it was quite an open road? I don't think it's arguable that cars are better under brakes and changing direction through a series of corners and equally there's no question that bikes will nearly always be more accelerative so it comes down to the road. If it's an A road with corner then straight then corner then straight then the bike will probably be quicker, if it's a B road with sequences of corners the bike will probaly fall back, only catching up again on the straights. At the risk of sounding like some kind of keyboard hero I used to regularly drive some quite well known biking roads in Scotland in my good handling but only moderately quick car and I NEVER got left behind by bikes on the twisty bits and more often would back off for fear of pushing them too hard as some REALLY didn't like having a shitty Citroen Xsara glued to their arse.
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[T0MMY]

[Vin]

[G]

From my own experiences - you can get a bike to flick left to right damn fast if you try, while a car has a lot of weight to move.
I suspect an RGB spec car or similar may be a bit quicker.

[T0MMY]

I agree that you can flick a bike pretty quick but if you had to chicane around something, as in actually changing the direction of your momentum I doubt the bike is quicker. Put it this way, weaving through a series of cones (allowing for the greater width of the car) what do you think would be quicker?

In my experience the car is better in this area but then I think I'm a better driver than rider. I've actually been riding bikes for 5 years longer than driving cars but have a lot more track experience in the car which I think is FAR more significant when we're talking about pushing the limits of a vehicle. I know you race bikes so I guess you're pretty handy on them so maybe you feel different?

The way I see it, I think I can carry similar mid corner speed on the bike and in the car (favouring the bike in very fast corners and the car in slower ones where it can be slid) but through a series of interlinked corners with braking I am DEFINITELY quicker in the car and bear in mind this ain't an Ariel Atom!
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[G]

I'm not sure about weaving through a series of cones - all the comparisons I've seen the bike has easily won because it's taken the shorter route.

However, that's not quite the point, to be fair, though is another plus point for bikes on the road.

I'm definitely more confident on bikes than in (fast) cars. I still don't turn as quickly as I can, but, at say the bottom of the mountain at Cadwell, I don't think a car could get through there near as quick as a bike could flick side to side. As I say, throw braking into the mix and it's another matter.
Though, on that, I'm definitely more confident going into a corner on the brakes on a bike, but that's an experience thing.