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Paulington
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PostPosted: 10:40 - 26 Aug 2009    Post subject: Biker Deaths Reply with quote

I was just wondering how it affects people when they hear news or anything about a biker dying?

My friend's Dad was recently on a trip to Devon. He came off and got hit by a white van coming the other way. He was killed in said accident.

Just wondering how it feels or if makes you alter your riding in any way? I find I tend to ride a bit more cautiously after for a little while..

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PostPosted: 10:55 - 26 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you drive differently when you hear news about a car driver dying?
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PostPosted: 11:07 - 26 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

It makes me so horny I have to have a wank, or my balls start to ache.
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PostPosted: 11:13 - 26 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's probably a bit inappropriate mate Thumbs Down

But I've got to agree with the point, if it's someone I don't know personally I tend to feel a bit gutted for them/their family but not much more. It wouldn't really affect my riding.
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PostPosted: 11:22 - 26 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I must admit; it does make me go all philosophical about how fragile life can be. A lot of the biker death stories you hear are down to other people's mistakes and it can be quite disheartening to know that sometimes you're going to be seriously hurt / killed through no fault of your own. It definately makes me more cautious when I hear about specific accidents.
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PostPosted: 11:25 - 26 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

radicalry00 wrote:
It definately makes me more cautious when I hear about specific accidents.


Why? Confused

Were you not aware that there was a risk of accident and injury/death beforehand?
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PostPosted: 11:27 - 26 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Much as I'm gutted at not owning a bike since selling up, part of me is actually quite glad at the resulting reduced risk of serious injury.

The death part wasn't really an issue. If I'm no longer alive, it wouldn't really bother me. Just as it didn't really bother me in the 3 billion years before I was born, and I wasn't alive then either.

But being crippled in some way, especially being unable to walk, is probably about the worst thing I can possibly think of (apart from maybe being forced to listen to U2).

I knew the risks when I got into it, but it seemed the longer I rode, the less I thought about them. God knows what I would have been like after 20 years of riding. Probably thinking I'm invincible.
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PostPosted: 11:30 - 26 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Time for you to go get a cheap little naked bike and stick some good tyres on it, twice the fun at half the speed, chop chop Wink
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PostPosted: 11:33 - 26 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

it doesn't really affect me i feel sorry for the person and there family because of the death sure but doesn't personally affect me,

A guy i knew from my dads work decked his bike in the rain going around a corner and now he cant use his legs again because a car went over him
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PostPosted: 11:34 - 26 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Man died after fall down stairs

Dad dies after falling down stairs

Woman died after falling down staircase

Man dies after tripping in tescos car park

Everyone should walk more cautiously. Thumbs Up

And do some looking into quite how many people die in their sleep! Sleep well tonight, cautiously of course. Razz
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PostPosted: 11:38 - 26 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mudskipper wrote:
radicalry00 wrote:
It definately makes me more cautious when I hear about specific accidents.


Why? Confused

Were you not aware that there was a risk of accident and injury/death beforehand?

Yes I was well aware of the risks beforehand but hearing about loss of life on a motorcycle, makes me re-evaluate the risks and to ask myself; is it actually worth pushing that little bit extra and increasing my chance of serious injury or death? Maybe I'm a little strange but I would've thought that hearing about the aftermath of a fatal crash would've triggered a sense of cautiousness in even the most experienced riders.
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PostPosted: 11:40 - 26 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="skluff"] But being crippled in some way, especially being unable to walk, is probably about the worst thing I can possibly think of (apart from maybe being forced to listen to U2). [/quote]

About 5 Years ago i crashed my car and broke my neck (completely my fault, and i'm just thankful no-one else got hurt), i spent about 6 months in hospital in a wheelchair and was told i'd never walk again.. i was lucky and am now 99% fine again and can do everything i could before my crash, and i honestly do think i ride a lot safer and more sensible than i did before...

my point is, i think it takes a close call to make you wake up and think about your riding, and not just reading about accidents... IMO !


Oh - What's wrong with U2 ?!?!?
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PostPosted: 11:43 - 26 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
Man died after fall down stairs

Dad dies after falling down stairs

Woman died after falling down staircase

Man dies after tripping in tescos car park

Everyone should walk more cautiously. Thumbs Up

And do some looking into quite how many people die in their sleep! Sleep well tonight, cautiously of course. Razz

I get your point but at the end of the day, you're much more likely to die in a road traffic collision than on your staircase. Even more so on a motorcycle.

All I'm trying to say that us bikers are much more exposed than everyone else and hearing about these deaths, makes me personally, much more cautious. To me, biking is still the number one form of transport and I use my bike everyday but it just makes me think out my riding habits much more,
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PostPosted: 11:53 - 26 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're more likely to die in your sleep than in a road traffic collision. Shocked
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PostPosted: 11:54 - 26 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

radicalry00 wrote:

I get your point but at the end of the day, you're much more likely to die in a road traffic collision than on your staircase. Even more so on a motorcycle.

All I'm trying to say that us bikers are much more exposed than everyone else and hearing about these deaths, makes me personally, much more cautious. To me, biking is still the number one form of transport and I use my bike everyday but it just makes me think out my riding habits much more,


https://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?id=1208
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PostPosted: 11:55 - 26 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
You're more likely to die in your sleep than in a road traffic collision. Shocked


Lol, but don't you just love it when you can see the fruits of anti-road user propoganda come through... Laughing
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PostPosted: 12:01 - 26 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mudskipper wrote:
radicalry00 wrote:

I get your point but at the end of the day, you're much more likely to die in a road traffic collision than on your staircase. Even more so on a motorcycle.

All I'm trying to say that us bikers are much more exposed than everyone else and hearing about these deaths, makes me personally, much more cautious. To me, biking is still the number one form of transport and I use my bike everyday but it just makes me think out my riding habits much more,


https://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?id=1208

Biker deaths make up 20% of all RTA deaths yet there are probably 10 times less bikes on the road than cars. (Forgot the exact figure)

Anyway, I didn't want to start a debate of the statistics, I just wanted to point out that hearing about these deaths does make me reflect on my choice of riding a bike. Clearly, many of you look at it very differently which is fine. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 12:15 - 26 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it's also an age factor, as you get older and have kids the more you start to realise that chances you would have taken when you are 20 are not really worth it in the long run.

There was a guy ion one of the London forums who crashed, he still doesn't know why, and he lost an arm. I have to say it made me consider the way I ride and the risks I take in more detail.

That said we recently got back from a hoon in Germany and we were riding considerably faster than I thought I was capable of.
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PostPosted: 14:59 - 26 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

In all honesty, if I don't know them then they're not much more than a number TO ME.

How do I feel when someone dies that I know in general?

Pretty depressed.

I have had people die who've been on the same forum as me. That's different because you do feel you know them just from reading their posts etc.
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PostPosted: 16:34 - 26 Aug 2009    Post subject: Re: Biker Deaths Reply with quote

Paulington wrote:
I was just wondering how it affects people when they hear news or anything about a biker dying?

My friend's Dad was recently on a trip to Devon. He came off and got hit by a white van coming the other way. He was killed in said accident.

Just wondering how it feels or if makes you alter your riding in any way? I find I tend to ride a bit more cautiously after for a little while..

Cheers!


It doesn't change anything personally..

Maybe if I was a witness of an accident involving a biker or my mate/family member died in accident then probably would make a difference to me.

Otherwise the deaths are just statistics like among car drivers.. plane crashes etc. Things like that just happen and people are used to read about it / watch it on TV.
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PostPosted: 16:45 - 26 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

When i get on my bike each day i realize the fact that i might not make it do my destination. Be killed or worst crippled.
I dont expect it to happen but i know theres a possibility,
so when i hear of other bikers being killed ofc its sad and i wish it never happened but the person took the risk that we all do.
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PostPosted: 16:50 - 26 Aug 2009    Post subject: Re: Biker Deaths Reply with quote

Paulington wrote:
Just wondering how it feels or if makes you alter your riding in any way? I find I tend to ride a bit more cautiously after for a little while..


Fuck that. Nail the throttle to the stops, I say - it's the only language these sort of people understand.
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PostPosted: 19:01 - 26 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

No it doesn't change how I ride - because I try to ride carefully, I'm not of the sort of mentality that just hoons it around without a care in the world and need to see/hear about someone else dying to make me realize.

Now my own crash, on the other hand... nearly three weeks now, knee still sore and still limping a bit, still taking it easy and still the occasional twinge. Will it affect my riding? Probably, I'll probably be a bit nervous the first few times, especially about leaning over. But I'm not going to be put off by it.
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PostPosted: 20:03 - 26 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

There have been 2 deaths in the past month on roads that I use regularly, they have not affected my riding on these roads, but in the places I have crashed I am a lot more wary. I do slow down slightly at the crash site if I knew the biker and nod, but that is all.
I know the risks I take every day out on the bike and so do my kids, they also know I love them and if I do die whilst out on my travels they know I died doing what I love - biking. Nothing is going to stop me doing that, except death or extremely serious illness or injury.
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